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I always use the gas stoves as a backup to power outages, to cook and make food. This has come handy in 2-3 emergencies already where gas distribution is not di

I always use the gas stoves as a backup to power outages, to cook and make food. This has come handy in 2-3 emergencies already where gas distribution is not disrupted even during a power outage. A part of me feels nervous becoming so centralized on electricity as a society, even for food.

mechagodzilla 4y ago
A propane grill or camp stove serves that purpose pretty well, without requiring the leaky infrastructure.
- klyrs 4y ago
  Not without proper ventilation, please -- which building codes require for gas stoves (which is often overlooked somehow, but that's another issue). People asphyxiate in blizzards every year because this solution is available and doesn't work with a window open.
  - mechagodzilla 4y ago
    You should use them outside for cooking. In addition to many buildings with gas stoves not having proper ventilation in the first place, if your power is out your electrically-powered exhaust fan probably doesn't work.
  - comte7092 4y ago
    Cooking YouTubers have seem to be getting by with camp style cooking stoves on their countertops just fine for a long time… is the issue that propane is more likely to give of CO compared to methane? Or is it more so that people in blizzards are trying to use these stoves as heat sources in enclosed spaces for a long time?
thedrbrian 4y ago
>you have been assigned 2 demerits on your social credit score no one else think it's weird that so many people have come out against gas stoves at the same time?
- tapoxi 4y ago
  They're mostly reacting to the results of a Stanford study from last year, showing that they emit levels of NO2 that are hazardous to human health and emit methane (a very potent greenhouse gas) even when not in use.
- ownlife 4y ago
  Are you suggesting something nefarious? Topics blow up all the time for one reason or another; this is just another meme.
derbOac 4y ago
We have geothermal HVAC and this is one reason why banning gas hookups seems like a very bad idea to me. What we have is essentially an electric heat pump that gets routed through the earth. We love it but during bad winter storms I feel vulnerable by being so dependent on electricity. We haven't had problems so far but if we did it would be very bad. It doesn't seem like a bad thing to allow for multiple ways to heat your home, water, and food. Solar is another possibility but that seems impractical in a lot of scenarios, especially when one of the major reasons for an electrical outage would be storms. I understand the motivations for wanting to ban fossil fuels but I feel like the best way to do that is to let the market take its course, maybe with positive government incentives. Let people figure out what the best balance of fossil fuel dependency is. Build up the grid to the point where it seems indestructible and convince people that way. It seems like a bad idea to force increased dependency on the electric grid when there's so many stories about how poor it is in so many places.

mechagodzilla 4y ago

A propane grill or camp stove serves that purpose pretty well, without requiring the leaky infrastructure.

klyrs 4y ago
Not without proper ventilation, please -- which building codes require for gas stoves (which is often overlooked somehow, but that's another issue). People asphyxiate in blizzards every year because this solution is available and doesn't work with a window open.
- mechagodzilla 4y ago
  You should use them outside for cooking. In addition to many buildings with gas stoves not having proper ventilation in the first place, if your power is out your electrically-powered exhaust fan probably doesn't work.
- comte7092 4y ago
  Cooking YouTubers have seem to be getting by with camp style cooking stoves on their countertops just fine for a long time… is the issue that propane is more likely to give of CO compared to methane? Or is it more so that people in blizzards are trying to use these stoves as heat sources in enclosed spaces for a long time?

thedrbrian 4y ago

>you have been assigned 2 demerits on your social credit score no one else think it's weird that so many people have come out against gas stoves at the same time?

tapoxi 4y ago
They're mostly reacting to the results of a Stanford study from last year, showing that they emit levels of NO2 that are hazardous to human health and emit methane (a very potent greenhouse gas) even when not in use.
ownlife 4y ago
Are you suggesting something nefarious? Topics blow up all the time for one reason or another; this is just another meme.

derbOac 4y ago

We have geothermal HVAC and this is one reason why banning gas hookups seems like a very bad idea to me. What we have is essentially an electric heat pump that gets routed through the earth. We love it but during bad winter storms I feel vulnerable by being so dependent on electricity. We haven't had problems so far but if we did it would be very bad. It doesn't seem like a bad thing to allow for multiple ways to heat your home, water, and food. Solar is another possibility but that seems impractical in a lot of scenarios, especially when one of the major reasons for an electrical outage would be storms. I understand the motivations for wanting to ban fossil fuels but I feel like the best way to do that is to let the market take its course, maybe with positive government incentives. Let people figure out what the best balance of fossil fuel dependency is. Build up the grid to the point where it seems indestructible and convince people that way. It seems like a bad idea to force increased dependency on the electric grid when there's so many stories about how poor it is in so many places.