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For pretending that covid is something other than a moderately bad flu, in order to push pretty much untested mRNA shots onto the population, the vast majority

by collyw 4y ago

For pretending that covid is something other than a moderately bad flu, in order to push pretty much untested mRNA shots onto the population, the vast majority of whom didn't need it. Is it this month that the clinical trials end? I will be very curious to see what happens then, as the EUA will end, and thus pharmas liability shield is gone. Will the bullshit be forgotten about? Biden just extended the "emergency", so maybe not.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
> ["Long covid" is just propaganda] in order to push pretty much untested mRNA shots onto the population To what end?
- collyw 4y ago
  For pharma, to get a clinical trial for free. For authoritarian politicians to trial run social credit systems (vaccine based this time around) and tracking systems. Plenty of money to and power to be grabbed by those in positions to benefit from them. For big tech, to force people to stay in their homes and thus on their platforms. For those without any spiritual aspect to their existence, a chance to virtue signal, to force their ideals on everyone else.~~ Have you seen what the WHO are trying to push through? https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/help-spread-the-word?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/help-spread-the-word?utm...
tsimionescu 4y ago
Covid, one of the worse diseases that humanity has ever known, is "a moderately bad flu"? Do you realize that it has killed more people in these two years than TB, malaria, most individual cancers, AIDS, and on and on - and this based only on the officially confirmed cases, and despite absolutely unprecedented prevention measures virtually everywhere in the world? If we look at increased mortality, or if we extrapolate what happened early in China or Italy, it would have probably easily beaten the original AIDS epidemic, perhaps even the Spanish Flu. And to prevent the tiresome "died with Covid, not of it" idiocy, that applies to each and every disease death number. There is no such thing as "dying of a disease" that is separate from "dying with a disease", apart perhaps from cases of violent deaths, such as "shot in the head while infected with Covid" (which are obviously an entirely insignificant minority).
- colechristensen 4y ago
  What’s worst is a bit relative, I’d prefer covid to hiv obviously. What made covid bad was how transmissible it was, everyone got it more or less. Once you actually got it though it was about as severe as a flu, in the neighborhood of a bad flu, particularly notable for the age-based outcomes that were very much correlated to age. Plenty of flu variants actually effect young people strongly whereas covid was very much “older is worse”. In one sense covid was way worse than any old flu after 1918, in the other sense covid is somewhere between an average and bad flu. Your values might determine which is more important to you. If you were young covid was no big deal, if you were old it was terrifying. This was an odd situation for many diseases. And you have to be honest covid cases and cause of death are counted differently. There are lots of infections which just aren’t tested which would otherwise have much bigger “cause of death” numbers. I’m not a denier at all, the problem is facts get distorted to match people’s personal views and often the things you argue against aren’t entirely wrong, if distorted.
- collyw 4y ago
  Absolute nonsense. 99.97% survival rate for under 70s. Here is the impact compared to other pandemics, completely insignificant. If it weren't for forced masks and the hysteria imposed by governments it would be completely unnoticeable. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-deadliest-pandemics-by-population-impact/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-deadliest-pandemics-...

by collyw 4y ago

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago

> ["Long covid" is just propaganda] in order to push pretty much untested mRNA shots onto the population To what end?

collyw 4y ago
For pharma, to get a clinical trial for free. For authoritarian politicians to trial run social credit systems (vaccine based this time around) and tracking systems. Plenty of money to and power to be grabbed by those in positions to benefit from them. For big tech, to force people to stay in their homes and thus on their platforms. For those without any spiritual aspect to their existence, a chance to virtue signal, to force their ideals on everyone else.~~ Have you seen what the WHO are trying to push through? https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/help-spread-the-word?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2 https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/help-spread-the-word?utm...

tsimionescu 4y ago

Covid, one of the worse diseases that humanity has ever known, is "a moderately bad flu"? Do you realize that it has killed more people in these two years than TB, malaria, most individual cancers, AIDS, and on and on - and this based only on the officially confirmed cases, and despite absolutely unprecedented prevention measures virtually everywhere in the world? If we look at increased mortality, or if we extrapolate what happened early in China or Italy, it would have probably easily beaten the original AIDS epidemic, perhaps even the Spanish Flu. And to prevent the tiresome "died with Covid, not of it" idiocy, that applies to each and every disease death number. There is no such thing as "dying of a disease" that is separate from "dying with a disease", apart perhaps from cases of violent deaths, such as "shot in the head while infected with Covid" (which are obviously an entirely insignificant minority).

colechristensen 4y ago
What’s worst is a bit relative, I’d prefer covid to hiv obviously. What made covid bad was how transmissible it was, everyone got it more or less. Once you actually got it though it was about as severe as a flu, in the neighborhood of a bad flu, particularly notable for the age-based outcomes that were very much correlated to age. Plenty of flu variants actually effect young people strongly whereas covid was very much “older is worse”. In one sense covid was way worse than any old flu after 1918, in the other sense covid is somewhere between an average and bad flu. Your values might determine which is more important to you. If you were young covid was no big deal, if you were old it was terrifying. This was an odd situation for many diseases. And you have to be honest covid cases and cause of death are counted differently. There are lots of infections which just aren’t tested which would otherwise have much bigger “cause of death” numbers. I’m not a denier at all, the problem is facts get distorted to match people’s personal views and often the things you argue against aren’t entirely wrong, if distorted.
collyw 4y ago
Absolute nonsense. 99.97% survival rate for under 70s. Here is the impact compared to other pandemics, completely insignificant. If it weren't for forced masks and the hysteria imposed by governments it would be completely unnoticeable. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-deadliest-pandemics-by-population-impact/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-deadliest-pandemics-...