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By that logic a sprinkler system is “artificial intelligence” when compared to a garden hose. That’s not what the term means.

randomdata 4y ago
That's exactly what artificial intelligence means... There is a secondary definition of AI that says basically an AI is anything that we haven't yet figured out how to do. Once we figure out how to do it, it ceases to be AI. Indeed, terms can and do have multiple meanings, but I'm not sure that secondary definition fits the topic of discussion.
- krustyburger 4y ago
  You’re being insincere. Let me guess, you’d say a can opener is artificial intelligence compared to a pocket knife? That’s not the way anyone uses the term.
  - randomdata 4y ago
    > you’d say a can opener is artificial intelligence compared to a pocket knife? No. In that case the intelligence is applied by the user. A can opener could be a component in a larger AI system. An AI needs to be aware (in the artificial sense) of its surroundings. Edit: I forgot that AI can openers do exist. The can opener I own is of the dumb machine kind and I hadn't fully considered what else might use that term. Yes, those are an AI. > That’s not the way anyone uses the term. Except when they do. Indeed, the "an AI is anything we haven't figured out yet" definition is about as common, but doesn't seem to be the definition that fits the topic at hand. A third definition where AI is defined as an ANN seems to be emerging in popular culture, but again that doesn't really fit the topic at hand as a lot of the job-replacing intelligences are not based on ANNs.
    - krustyburger 4y ago
      I apologize for suggesting insincerity on your part. It’s just that I think there is such a thing as artificial intelligence and something simply being a more complex machine doesn’t qualify. Your definition is idiosyncratic but I recognize your earnestness.
      - randomdata 4y ago
        > It’s just that I think there is such a thing as artificial intelligence Perhaps you are actually thinking of what is more commonly known as AGI (artificial general intelligence)? None of these machines of which we have spoken of are AGIs. That I can agree with.

randomdata 4y ago

That's exactly what artificial intelligence means... There is a secondary definition of AI that says basically an AI is anything that we haven't yet figured out how to do. Once we figure out how to do it, it ceases to be AI. Indeed, terms can and do have multiple meanings, but I'm not sure that secondary definition fits the topic of discussion.

krustyburger 4y ago
You’re being insincere. Let me guess, you’d say a can opener is artificial intelligence compared to a pocket knife? That’s not the way anyone uses the term.
- randomdata 4y ago
  > you’d say a can opener is artificial intelligence compared to a pocket knife? No. In that case the intelligence is applied by the user. A can opener could be a component in a larger AI system. An AI needs to be aware (in the artificial sense) of its surroundings. Edit: I forgot that AI can openers do exist. The can opener I own is of the dumb machine kind and I hadn't fully considered what else might use that term. Yes, those are an AI. > That’s not the way anyone uses the term. Except when they do. Indeed, the "an AI is anything we haven't figured out yet" definition is about as common, but doesn't seem to be the definition that fits the topic at hand. A third definition where AI is defined as an ANN seems to be emerging in popular culture, but again that doesn't really fit the topic at hand as a lot of the job-replacing intelligences are not based on ANNs.
  - krustyburger 4y ago
    I apologize for suggesting insincerity on your part. It’s just that I think there is such a thing as artificial intelligence and something simply being a more complex machine doesn’t qualify. Your definition is idiosyncratic but I recognize your earnestness.
    - randomdata 4y ago
      > It’s just that I think there is such a thing as artificial intelligence Perhaps you are actually thinking of what is more commonly known as AGI (artificial general intelligence)? None of these machines of which we have spoken of are AGIs. That I can agree with.