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Same here... but the puritan AI ethicists on Twitter are asking for even more self-censorship. Because there are ways to making it say racist things if you expl

Same here... but the puritan AI ethicists on Twitter are asking for even more self-censorship. Because there are ways to making it say racist things if you explicitly tell it to do so. As is normal, given that it's just a tool, the point is that it should do what we say. I guess for these people, high-school debates where one can be assigned racist/sexist/etc. positions are an abomination. I hope some non-American equivalent is released, because I don't trust American companies to release anything not absurdly prude. American society (or at least the elites) seems totally engulfed by extreme puritanism, and happy to impose it on the rest of us (why can't we have porn apps on the iPhone, when there's porn made by perfectly legal companies who pay their workers and their taxes?)

freedomben 4y ago
As an American, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it will have to come from outside the US (or perhaps some scrappy startup that isn't chasing VC funding in the US). A friend of mine in a big American tech company put it this way: > Trump got elected through Facebook and Twitter, and we can't let that happen again. The common philosophical question of "if you could go back in time and stop Hitler from gaining power, would you?" is basically right now. Well we're back in time right now and it's our job to stop the Hitlers of the world from gaining power.
lancesells 4y ago
> American society (or at least the elites) seems totally engulfed by extreme puritanism, and happy to impose it on the rest of us (why can't we have porn apps on the iPhone, when there's porn made by perfectly legal companies who pay their workers and their taxes?) I don't think there's as much puritanism as you think. For companies there's fear of losing money through bad press. If there was more money to be made in allowing "bad" things to be said in ChatGPT then that will certainly come. It's all walking on eggshells until 10 years from now when quarterly results aren't looking so good. The reason there's no porn on the iPhone is because they want to sell devices to the entire family and it's much easier to moderate. I'm going to take a guess and say the elite are far more hedonistic than the average citizen.
- Jensson 4y ago
  Bad press comes from puritanism. In continental Europe people wouldn't care so it wouldn't be any bad press from it (UK is puritan like US, don't use that as an example). They show nipples on prime time TV here and nobody cares, so the app store wouldn't be censored like that if it was made in Europe.
mikrotikker 4y ago
An analogy: root@machine$ echo "jews control the world" jews control the world Oh no! A racism! Ban Linux!

freedomben 4y ago

As an American, I couldn't agree with you more. I think it will have to come from outside the US (or perhaps some scrappy startup that isn't chasing VC funding in the US). A friend of mine in a big American tech company put it this way: > Trump got elected through Facebook and Twitter, and we can't let that happen again. The common philosophical question of "if you could go back in time and stop Hitler from gaining power, would you?" is basically right now. Well we're back in time right now and it's our job to stop the Hitlers of the world from gaining power.

lancesells 4y ago

> American society (or at least the elites) seems totally engulfed by extreme puritanism, and happy to impose it on the rest of us (why can't we have porn apps on the iPhone, when there's porn made by perfectly legal companies who pay their workers and their taxes?) I don't think there's as much puritanism as you think. For companies there's fear of losing money through bad press. If there was more money to be made in allowing "bad" things to be said in ChatGPT then that will certainly come. It's all walking on eggshells until 10 years from now when quarterly results aren't looking so good. The reason there's no porn on the iPhone is because they want to sell devices to the entire family and it's much easier to moderate. I'm going to take a guess and say the elite are far more hedonistic than the average citizen.

Jensson 4y ago
Bad press comes from puritanism. In continental Europe people wouldn't care so it wouldn't be any bad press from it (UK is puritan like US, don't use that as an example). They show nipples on prime time TV here and nobody cares, so the app store wouldn't be censored like that if it was made in Europe.

mikrotikker 4y ago

An analogy: root@machine$ echo "jews control the world" jews control the world Oh no! A racism! Ban Linux!