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Yeah, the question isn't so much "can't" as "prefers not to". Unless the premium that people will pay for meat without antibiotics is more than the reduced outp

Yeah, the question isn't so much "can't" as "prefers not to". Unless the premium that people will pay for meat without antibiotics is more than the reduced output costs them they won't do it. Alternatively if they are forced to pay for the externalities and that costs them more than the extra profit. It's simple math to do. Expecting "big meat" to change it's behaviour without changing the inputs to the equation is ridiculous. That isn't how businesses work.

saiya-jin 4y ago
Its always a choice - here is some cheap junk with mediocre taste. Here is some significantly more expensive, less junky stuff with +-same taste, sometimes worse. Rest is sales history. If we want to actively shield population from eating shit, we would have to remove more than half of items in shelves in most supermarkets, I suspect even more in typical US one. But then why the heck should things like cigarettes or even sugar be legal, we know now pretty well how they slowly kill everybody involved.
- themitigating 4y ago
  Cigarettes are heavily regulated in fact California just banned flavors. There's also been proposals about a sugar tax and limits on the size of soft drinks but they are difficult to implement due to conservative/right wing pushback. Your comment is whataboutism but not even that good of a counter since actions are being taken
  - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
    Didn’t Coca Cola bribe NAACP to call sugar taxes racist. https://thepostmillennial.com/coca-cola-accused-of-paying-naacp-to-call-soda-taxes-racist https://thepostmillennial.com/coca-cola-accused-of-paying-na... Is NAACP right wing? A lot of left wing groups also oppose sugar tax calling it racist https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/taxing-bubbles-or-case-tax-racial-equity https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/taxing-bubbles-or-cas...
    - themitigating 4y ago
      No idea, what does that have to do with my comments? I'm pointing out that actions are being taken to curtail usage to counter the person who what using whataboutism with sugar and cigarettes
      - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
        You said the right wing opposed sugar taxes without any links while I pointed out the left wing opposed them with evidence. Isn’t that relevant?
        themitigating 4y ago
        Oh my bad I forgot I did that. Here's sources showing Republicans against both the soda tax and cigarette regulations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/06/18/senate-gop-kills-mccain-tobacco-bill/084c2008-b308-4321-8574-205d37bacc22/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/06/18/s... https://money.com/soda-tax-gop-partisan-battle/ https://money.com/soda-tax-gop-partisan-battle/ Your second source, when you say that alot of left wing groups are against it, is about Philadelphia and in the end. ". The city council passed the 1.75 cents-per-ounce sugary drink tax on June 5, and it will go into effect in January. " The NAACP is a bipartisan group so its stance on the issue has no bearing.

saiya-jin 4y ago

Its always a choice - here is some cheap junk with mediocre taste. Here is some significantly more expensive, less junky stuff with +-same taste, sometimes worse. Rest is sales history. If we want to actively shield population from eating shit, we would have to remove more than half of items in shelves in most supermarkets, I suspect even more in typical US one. But then why the heck should things like cigarettes or even sugar be legal, we know now pretty well how they slowly kill everybody involved.

themitigating 4y ago
Cigarettes are heavily regulated in fact California just banned flavors. There's also been proposals about a sugar tax and limits on the size of soft drinks but they are difficult to implement due to conservative/right wing pushback. Your comment is whataboutism but not even that good of a counter since actions are being taken
- cscurmudgeon 4y ago
  Didn’t Coca Cola bribe NAACP to call sugar taxes racist. https://thepostmillennial.com/coca-cola-accused-of-paying-naacp-to-call-soda-taxes-racist https://thepostmillennial.com/coca-cola-accused-of-paying-na... Is NAACP right wing? A lot of left wing groups also oppose sugar tax calling it racist https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/taxing-bubbles-or-case-tax-racial-equity https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/taxing-bubbles-or-cas...
  - themitigating 4y ago
    No idea, what does that have to do with my comments? I'm pointing out that actions are being taken to curtail usage to counter the person who what using whataboutism with sugar and cigarettes
    - cscurmudgeon 4y ago
      You said the right wing opposed sugar taxes without any links while I pointed out the left wing opposed them with evidence. Isn’t that relevant?
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Oh my bad I forgot I did that. Here's sources showing Republicans against both the soda tax and cigarette regulations. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/06/18/senate-gop-kills-mccain-tobacco-bill/084c2008-b308-4321-8574-205d37bacc22/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1998/06/18/s... https://money.com/soda-tax-gop-partisan-battle/ https://money.com/soda-tax-gop-partisan-battle/ Your second source, when you say that alot of left wing groups are against it, is about Philadelphia and in the end. ". The city council passed the 1.75 cents-per-ounce sugary drink tax on June 5, and it will go into effect in January. " The NAACP is a bipartisan group so its stance on the issue has no bearing.