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> We’re back to fighting proxy wars with the Russians, which the supposedly progressive author presents as a positive! Fighting and winning. We've managed to
by fallingknife 4y ago
> We’re back to fighting proxy wars with the Russians, which the supposedly progressive author presents as a positive!
Fighting and winning. We've managed to degrade the Russian army to the point where they are fielding tanks from the 1970's and all for less than $50 billion and 0 US casualties. If that's not a positive, I don't know what is.
- rank0 4y agoThe strategic argument I respect much more than the moral one. I agree it’s working to destabilize the Russian federation. The question is: “is it worth it?” 100B+ in military spending, destroying Ukraine, dramatically weakening the European economy seems like a pretty steep price for fighting the ghost of the USSR. In general we have a pretty terrible track record for acting as world police. Arming the Mujahideen during the Soviet-afghan war did defeat the soviets…but the aftermath was horrendous for the region.
- mcphage 4y ago> In general we have a pretty terrible track record for acting as world police. That’s the difference in this situation—we’re not acting as world police. We’re helping an allied nation defend itself.
- _kbh_ 4y ago> 100B+ in military spending, destroying Ukraine, dramatically weakening the European economy seems like a pretty steep price for fighting the ghost of the USSR. You should keep in mind that Ukraine would be more destroyed without American and other western help, not less. The US for the first time in a long time is supplying a side in a war that has a clear good a bad side.