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Education today seems broken, perhaps this will be a way to fix a broken system. They don’t teach abacus use in schools anymore as well as how to use log tables

est31 4y ago
Yeah, homework was designed as a way to make self study monitoring and verification scalable. It's not a bad solution but if the availability of AI makes it hard to control that someone has done their homework instead of giving it to an AI, then you have to look for alternatives. Thankfully, in such a world, AI is available to the "teacher" side as well and can serve as a way to both check that the student is doing their job and also to answer their questions, like a personalized teacher of sorts.
- shagie 4y ago
  The "if I was a teacher" thoughts on how to handle a ChatGPT that can do short answer questions for English, History, and Social Studies classes... I'd have a set of N questions that shouldn't take long to answer but demonstrate that the material has been read. Yes, ChatGPT can answer them. The second part would be in class, after the homework had been handed in pull a name and number out of a hat and have that student answer that question again and answer a followup question on that material. The oral part of it makes it so that having another do the homework for the student and not do the reading means that the student would show a lack of understanding of the question or its followup. (note: my sophomore English teacher did this... and I messed up answering questions about the Miller's tale which I hadn't read)
  - cudgy 4y ago
    This is a brilliant tactic as avoiding being embarrassed in front of the class is a huge motivator. Plus, the value of teaching others is a huge benefit to the student for the subject matter and the practice of communication skills when explaining to the class.
joelfried 4y ago
Assuming we're limiting our scope to the modern American public school system this won't help, at least where I'm located. Teachers are required to have Masters degrees and are paid within the range for a part time cashier at Lowe's[1]. We aren't going to fix this system until that changes; when we're paying that badly we're going to get the worst of what's left. [1] Sourced the salary for teachers near me from Google's linked data. Sourced the Lowe's part time cashier range from an actual job listing in my area. Edit: fixed footnote, sentence fragment.

est31 4y ago

Yeah, homework was designed as a way to make self study monitoring and verification scalable. It's not a bad solution but if the availability of AI makes it hard to control that someone has done their homework instead of giving it to an AI, then you have to look for alternatives. Thankfully, in such a world, AI is available to the "teacher" side as well and can serve as a way to both check that the student is doing their job and also to answer their questions, like a personalized teacher of sorts.

shagie 4y ago
The "if I was a teacher" thoughts on how to handle a ChatGPT that can do short answer questions for English, History, and Social Studies classes... I'd have a set of N questions that shouldn't take long to answer but demonstrate that the material has been read. Yes, ChatGPT can answer them. The second part would be in class, after the homework had been handed in pull a name and number out of a hat and have that student answer that question again and answer a followup question on that material. The oral part of it makes it so that having another do the homework for the student and not do the reading means that the student would show a lack of understanding of the question or its followup. (note: my sophomore English teacher did this... and I messed up answering questions about the Miller's tale which I hadn't read)
- cudgy 4y ago
  This is a brilliant tactic as avoiding being embarrassed in front of the class is a huge motivator. Plus, the value of teaching others is a huge benefit to the student for the subject matter and the practice of communication skills when explaining to the class.

joelfried 4y ago

Assuming we're limiting our scope to the modern American public school system this won't help, at least where I'm located. Teachers are required to have Masters degrees and are paid within the range for a part time cashier at Lowe's[1]. We aren't going to fix this system until that changes; when we're paying that badly we're going to get the worst of what's left. [1] Sourced the salary for teachers near me from Google's linked data. Sourced the Lowe's part time cashier range from an actual job listing in my area. Edit: fixed footnote, sentence fragment.