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"ChatGPT, he says, doesn’t have the ability to describe the feelings seen on a player’s face when they win the World Cup," Oh piffle. My wife and I roll our ey

by jerf 4y ago

"ChatGPT, he says, doesn’t have the ability to describe the feelings seen on a player’s face when they win the World Cup," Oh piffle. My wife and I roll our eyes and mock the sports reporters when they run down to the field and ask the question "How does it feel to have won the $CHAMPIONSHIP?" "Oh man, it's... it's just so incredible, you know, you work all your life to reach this height and... here I am... it's just... sniffle it's really amazing. I have a really great team and I'd like to say HI MOM and... just.. oh man..." "We'll let you go join the celebration. There you have it, $OTHER_ANNOUNCER." (Our favorite is: "Hey, $COACH, what do you plan to do to win this game?" "Well, you know, that's a good question, and we've got a plan we're going to execute to, you know, go out there and play strong, we're gonna try to, you know, score points and, uh, prevent the other team from scoring points. We're pretty confident that if we can execute that plan we're going to win." In fairness, sometimes the answer is better than that. But a lot of the times, if you think about what they just said, that's what it amounts to without any particular loss. After all, even if they have a good answer, they're not terribly interested in giving it to you before the game....) I mean, I get it, I'm not so cold hearted as to not understand why they ask the question. It just doesn't happen to speak to us. But I would rate it more on the easy-mode side of sports writing, way easier than, say, being accurate about statistics or being correct about what strategy a team needs to pursue against another team for victory or what strategy they're going to pursue. Extremely, extremely stereotyped responses. Can't hardly be wrong, it's not like saying "excitedly" instead of "energetically" is going to be the difference between accurate and inaccurate. Easy mode for a transformer architecture.

fnordpiglet 4y ago
They obviously didn’t ask chatgpt to act like a sports announcer. And, given the expressions on the players faces, as you point out, is completely predictable and has been described a million times with a high rate of consistency, I would expect it could completely and reliably describe the feelings seen on a players face when they win the World Cup.
benmanns 4y ago
GPT-3 Prompt: A broadcast from the Super Bowl: Reporter: "How does it feel to have won the Super Bowl?" Star quarterback: Completion: "It feels amazing. We worked so hard all season and to finally have won the championship is truly a dream come true. I'm so proud of my teammates and coaches for their dedication and hard work. It's been a long journey and I'm so grateful for this victory."
- jerf 4y ago
  Heh, the only reason GPT-3 doesn't sound like my quote is no news reporter would be so crass as to directly transcribe a player like that. Which means this is correct for GPT-3 as well, in this context. (I was in a Zoom chat yesterday with the transcription on and I noticed it was doing the same thing. It was aware of the "ums" and "uhs" and sometimes those phonemes would be in the original transcription, resulting in the wrong words/phrases, but once the transcription stabilized they are edited out for the most part.)
- FormerBandmate 4y ago
  I feel like I’ve read this a thousand times, because I have. You could replace the entire Daily Mail
nindalf 4y ago
Sometimes sports interviews can be memorable like - I’m just here so I won’t get fined. - It’s only game, why you heff to be mad? - They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
- brandonmenc 4y ago
  Practice?!
paradygm 4y ago
When I explain to people what I love about baseball, it’s that I know what is supposed to happen. It’s when what isn’t supposed to happen happens that makes it exciting. It’s the same with these questions. We know the question but it’s the response s, in particular from younger players (like collegiate athletes), that make the questions still worth asking and journalistically relevant, even if sometimes they come off as rehearsed.
smiley1437 4y ago
Those boring canned responses (your sendup is absolutely hilarious by the way) are why I've always enjoyed Kimi Raikkonen's deadpan responses Interviewer: “The most exciting moment during the race weekend?” Kimi Raikkonen: “I think so it’s the race start, always.” Interviewer: “The most boring?” Kimi Raikkonen: “Now.”
- blitzar 4y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLetR8TPW8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLetR8TPW8 Interviewer: "Kimi, you missed the presentation by Pele at the front of the grid." Kimi Raikkonen: “I was having a shit.”
tyre 4y ago
You might enjoy “How Tracy Austin Broke my Heart”[0] by David Foster Wallace. He reads her (young tennis phenom) autobiography and it’s filled with this type of language. He wonders if, in order to be a top tier athlete, they almost have to think this way. Simple, repeatable mantras drilled into their conscious and subconscious. Too much thinking would throw them off. [0]: https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/7/59784/files/2016/08/DFW-How-Tracy-Austin-Broke-My-Heart-1994-1lctx91.pdf https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/7/59784/fil...
- mooreds 4y ago
  That was a fantastic essay. Thanks for sharing.
- musicale 4y ago
  Acclaimed writer criticized tennis player for bad writing.
feintruled 4y ago
Funny observation! Soccer is even worse than this (in England at least, Italian players for example can seem very philosophical but it might be a side-effect of getting it through translation), with the added twist that you have to get your tenses all wrong for some reason. "So I was sat there waiting for the cross, and it comes over me head and I just hits it and bang it's in the back of the net" I think ChatGPT could easily replace commentators too. Of a missed shot - "He'll want to have got that on target!" - Oh he will? Such insight!
JohnClark1337 4y ago
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thunderbong 4y ago
First time I'm seeing the word 'piffle' being used outside of literature!
dctoedt 4y ago
Obligatory reference to Bull Durham: Crash: "You're gonna have to learn your clichés. You're gonna have to study them, you're gonna have to know them. They're your friends. Write this down: We gotta play it one day at a time. ...." Nuke a.k.a. Meat: "That's pretty boring." Crash: "Of course it's boring, that's the point. Write it down." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1m4JKH3AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1m4JKH3AM
musicale 4y ago
> "Hey, $COACH, what do you plan to do to win this game?" "Well, after analyzing hundreds of hours of video of the opposing team, we've pretty much decoded their play-calling signals. We're also going to monitor them remotely and communicate with our players on the field to give ourselves the edge we need. We're also planning on deflating the ball a bit to make it easier when we have possession. Also we've stolen our opponents' play sheets, so we hope to make use of them as best we can. And we're hoping that our opponents' headsets might 'mysteriously' stop working. And of course as always our players are going to bring their A game to the field to really win this!"

by jerf 4y ago

fnordpiglet 4y ago

They obviously didn’t ask chatgpt to act like a sports announcer. And, given the expressions on the players faces, as you point out, is completely predictable and has been described a million times with a high rate of consistency, I would expect it could completely and reliably describe the feelings seen on a players face when they win the World Cup.

benmanns 4y ago

GPT-3 Prompt: A broadcast from the Super Bowl: Reporter: "How does it feel to have won the Super Bowl?" Star quarterback: Completion: "It feels amazing. We worked so hard all season and to finally have won the championship is truly a dream come true. I'm so proud of my teammates and coaches for their dedication and hard work. It's been a long journey and I'm so grateful for this victory."

jerf 4y ago
Heh, the only reason GPT-3 doesn't sound like my quote is no news reporter would be so crass as to directly transcribe a player like that. Which means this is correct for GPT-3 as well, in this context. (I was in a Zoom chat yesterday with the transcription on and I noticed it was doing the same thing. It was aware of the "ums" and "uhs" and sometimes those phonemes would be in the original transcription, resulting in the wrong words/phrases, but once the transcription stabilized they are edited out for the most part.)
FormerBandmate 4y ago
I feel like I’ve read this a thousand times, because I have. You could replace the entire Daily Mail

nindalf 4y ago

Sometimes sports interviews can be memorable like - I’m just here so I won’t get fined. - It’s only game, why you heff to be mad? - They had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

brandonmenc 4y ago
Practice?!

paradygm 4y ago

When I explain to people what I love about baseball, it’s that I know what is supposed to happen. It’s when what isn’t supposed to happen happens that makes it exciting. It’s the same with these questions. We know the question but it’s the response s, in particular from younger players (like collegiate athletes), that make the questions still worth asking and journalistically relevant, even if sometimes they come off as rehearsed.

smiley1437 4y ago

Those boring canned responses (your sendup is absolutely hilarious by the way) are why I've always enjoyed Kimi Raikkonen's deadpan responses Interviewer: “The most exciting moment during the race weekend?” Kimi Raikkonen: “I think so it’s the race start, always.” Interviewer: “The most boring?” Kimi Raikkonen: “Now.”

blitzar 4y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLetR8TPW8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPLetR8TPW8 Interviewer: "Kimi, you missed the presentation by Pele at the front of the grid." Kimi Raikkonen: “I was having a shit.”

tyre 4y ago

You might enjoy “How Tracy Austin Broke my Heart”[0] by David Foster Wallace. He reads her (young tennis phenom) autobiography and it’s filled with this type of language. He wonders if, in order to be a top tier athlete, they almost have to think this way. Simple, repeatable mantras drilled into their conscious and subconscious. Too much thinking would throw them off. [0]: https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/7/59784/files/2016/08/DFW-How-Tracy-Austin-Broke-My-Heart-1994-1lctx91.pdf https://bpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.psu.edu/dist/7/59784/fil...

mooreds 4y ago
That was a fantastic essay. Thanks for sharing.
musicale 4y ago
Acclaimed writer criticized tennis player for bad writing.

feintruled 4y ago

Funny observation! Soccer is even worse than this (in England at least, Italian players for example can seem very philosophical but it might be a side-effect of getting it through translation), with the added twist that you have to get your tenses all wrong for some reason. "So I was sat there waiting for the cross, and it comes over me head and I just hits it and bang it's in the back of the net" I think ChatGPT could easily replace commentators too. Of a missed shot - "He'll want to have got that on target!" - Oh he will? Such insight!

JohnClark1337 4y ago

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thunderbong 4y ago

First time I'm seeing the word 'piffle' being used outside of literature!

dctoedt 4y ago

Obligatory reference to Bull Durham: Crash: "You're gonna have to learn your clichés. You're gonna have to study them, you're gonna have to know them. They're your friends. Write this down: We gotta play it one day at a time. ...." Nuke a.k.a. Meat: "That's pretty boring." Crash: "Of course it's boring, that's the point. Write it down." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1m4JKH3AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v1m4JKH3AM

musicale 4y ago

> "Hey, $COACH, what do you plan to do to win this game?" "Well, after analyzing hundreds of hours of video of the opposing team, we've pretty much decoded their play-calling signals. We're also going to monitor them remotely and communicate with our players on the field to give ourselves the edge we need. We're also planning on deflating the ball a bit to make it easier when we have possession. Also we've stolen our opponents' play sheets, so we hope to make use of them as best we can. And we're hoping that our opponents' headsets might 'mysteriously' stop working. And of course as always our players are going to bring their A game to the field to really win this!"