To me the language is very secondary to me as it exists in an endless swamp of: - chaotic and baroque layers of tooling that need to be figured out and made to

To me the language is very secondary to me as it exists in an endless swamp of: - chaotic and baroque layers of tooling that need to be figured out and made to keep working - a software tradition where poorly thought out ideas are implemented with vigor resulting in design by accident - ...which then results in frequent rewrites - a universe of low quality libraries and frameworks resulting in frequent discovery of serious bugs - every project having lots and lots of dependencies And that's before we even consider the language or the congenital defects inherited from JavaScript.