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This might be the last straw. I flat out refuse to use their horrible app with its nonsense algorithmic timeline. Give it a few hours to see if it's permanent b
by sho 4y ago
This might be the last straw. I flat out refuse to use their horrible app with its nonsense algorithmic timeline. Give it a few hours to see if it's permanent but if it is, I expect a huge wave of new mastodon users..
- r721 4y agoI use twitter.com in desktop browser, and chronological timeline is still there (accessible via "sparkle icon").
- numpad0 4y agoThat’s chronological but still algorithmic.
- natch 4y agoSure, technically, chronological ordering is an algorithm. I wonder what you would want. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- numpad0 4y agoTweets flowing at 250kbps or more 24/7, of course… Edit: the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically.
- r721 4y ago>the way “chronological” timeline works is, Twitter decides on your social graph and hide posts until it fits your serving. Shadowbans, Boosting and Deboosting are factored in as well. That is technically chronological, only technically. Source? The thing is I compare chronological timeline with lists (of users I follow) all the time, and I didn't notice any missing tweets. "Shadowbanned" tweets always were visible in lists, I personally checked that.
- wpietri 4y agoYeah, unless something has changed drastically in the couple of months since I stopped using Twitter, I believe the web-based chronological timeline is exactly as you say. As soon as you click on a tweet to see replies you're getting things ranked, of course. But one's home timeline should be fine.
- noelsusman 4y agoIn my experience it just shows me all the tweets from people I follow in chronological order.
- carlivar 4y agoI use the mobile web. It's better than the app, and switching to chronological is easy.
- modeless 4y agoAgreed. I can't speak for iOS but the Android app is terrible. The font is too big and the scrolling is incredibly janky on high refresh rate displays. Mobile web is the only way to use Twitter on Android, and the PWA behaves mostly like a real app.
- grecy 4y agoElon said recently there are big changes coming to the timeline so it can be whatever you want
- minimaxir 4y agoElon says a lot of things.
- Hamuko 4y agoStill waiting for that new Twitter CEO.
- r721 4y agoThere were reports about timeline changes on iOS: >In a change rolling out to iOS users first, the company has taken away the star button at the top right that let you switch between two feeds. In its place are two tabs — one labeled “For You” and the other “Following” — and when you open the app, you’ll see the For You tab first. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/10/23549368/twitter-for-you-page-tiktok-following-tab https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/10/23549368/twitter-for-you-...
- smcl 4y agoI’m the same, I don’t really mind ads but I do not like the “algorithmic” timeline. Will find a way that doesn’t involve using their official iOS app, even if it means falling back to mobile web
- Groxx 4y agoTalon is the only reason I used Twitter for over a year, yeah. I can't stand the site. (Talon is also not loading any tweets at the moment)
- natch 4y agoElon is a fan of the chronological timeline, so I would take a pause there and consider. He even tweeted out instructions on how to switch to it and away from algorithmic.
- kalleboo 4y agoI remember him saying that, but I'm pretty sure that was way back before he completed the purchase and the site was still perpetuating what he calls "the woke mind virus". Now that's he's fixed the algorithm so that it is instead pushing right-wing ideology he may have changed his mind.
- thecopy 4y agoI moved to Tweetbot a few weeks ago when using internal keywords to hide "X person liked...", "X person follows..." tweets stopped working. Now it seems im forced back. ~50% of my feed was from people i dont follow. Does anyone know how to hide those tweets on the timeline?
- wut42 4y agoSwitch to the original timeline, not the algorithmic one.
- thecopy 4y agoThe issue is not the ordering, it is that it contains tweets from people i am not following. Before i could hide those by muting suggest_activity_tweet and suggest_recycled_tweet_inline This does not seem to work anymore
- wut42 4y agoWait, what? Since when? I'm regulary reading using the chronogical timeline and I'm not seeing anything like you describe (I only see that using the "for you" algo timeline). Very concerning anyway. :(
- thecopy 4y agoOh, it seems it was reset to use the algorithmic one. I for sure did not change that myself... Thx for making me double check
- wut42 4y agoAh! Yes, since they rolled out the For You/Timeline things, the apps tend sometimes to revert to For you randomly for no reason... One of my alts gets switched everytime, while my main account does not. All using them from the same iOS app.
- jahnu 4y agoFor a few days now on the iOS app I have "For You" and "Following" on the top and I can swipe between them, left and right. It has a tendency to keep switching back to the "For You" that I don't like but at least it's quick to switch back to who I'm actually following. Am I being A/B tested?
- tehbeard 4y agoSilly peasant, stop fighting the algorithm and embrace being fed filtered garbage instead of something atleast temporally coherent... /s
- wut42 4y agoThis is not new at all. I forgot when the "For You" tab got deployed, but for a while my iOS app kept switching to it-- hasn't happened in months now.
- esperent 4y agoLet's be real, if your "last straw" moment wasn't several weeks ago it's unlikely this is gonna be it. But if it is, shame on you. All the silencing of journalists, banning accounts for saying "mastodon", or saying anything negative about Tesla, or criticizing Musk in any way, that didn't do it. But now you have been mildly inconvenienced and it's the last straw. Really?
- recuter 4y ago[flagged]
- SilverBirch 4y agoThere's two reasons to leave a service, you can make a political statement - you leave because you disagree with their politics and you don't want to endorse them by associating with them. That's a legitimate reason to leave (although extremely often people declare they're doing this and then don't). But it's also perfectly legitimate to say "I'm leaving because the product got worse". It's sort of orthogonal to the political reason. Some people don't buy from Nestle because of Nestle's terrible track record, but I don't buy from Nestle because they're not selling anything I want. The second reason, generally is the thing that actually kills services. Digg didn't die because it conducted business unethically, it died because they fucked up the product, and that's what's happening here.
- ImaCake 4y agoThis is an excellent reply. Microblogging lends itself to absolutist statements. I guess sometimes people forget that the black and white thinking on twitter is a function of the medium and not a fact of reality.
- sho 4y agoHa, fair response. But the truth is I haven't much cared, you're right. Twitter is a private company, they agreed to sell and Musk bought it, if he wants to screw up his asset and his reputation by doing ridiculous things, that's his prerogative. I don't really follow much of that drama, nor do I regard twitter as some kind of indispensable public utility. But yes, now it is personally inconveniencing me, and so I'm looking at alternatives.
- seydor 4y agowhich other social app allows using chronological-mode?
- defect 4y agoTumblr is still chronological i believe, with ads injected in to the timeline of course.