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In China, the authorities would immediately send the police to arrest the entire corporate suite. They have even executed corrupt CEOs, for example in the taint
by GalenErso 4y ago
In China, the authorities would immediately send the police to arrest the entire corporate suite. They have even executed corrupt CEOs, for example in the tainted milk scandal.
In the United States, nothing will happen. No law was broken, you would say. Still. There should be consequences. There should have been consequences. In China, prosecutors would chalk it up to general charges of "corruption" or "public dishonesty" or whatever.
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- mc32 4y agoThey also would not allow people like Jane Fonda to drive public opinion on critical infrastructure policy like Nuclear Power.
- anigbrowl 4y agoAh yes, former energy secretary Jane Fonda. How could we forget.
- yreg 4y ago> There should be consequences. The public institutions should not punish or execute people who did not break a law.
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- anigbrowl 4y agoAre we sure they did not? Let's examine their past Congressional testimony and see if it was honest or perjurious.
- yreg 4y agoNo, I’m not sure they did not. I disagree with the parent poster who praises a dictator regime for being able to dispose of people at will.
- anigbrowl 4y agoThis assumption also seems un warranted. The history of legal thought in China dates back thousands of years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencius China strikes me as a somewhat oppressive society, whose norms and mores I would prefer not to live under. However, I do not have the impression that it is ruled by fiat. They have harsh laws against corruption, though my impression is that enforcement is uneven and many choose to gamble, on either not getting caught or being able to bribe their way out of trouble. Isn't it possible that you're just defaulting to assuming business operators are generally innocent and public authorities generally dictatorial?
- yreg 4y agoI don’t know what are you talking about and why are you arguing with me. Read the original comment I replied to. It’s along the lines of “It is bad that in US there are no consequences when no law is broken or when it cannot be proven. In China they can just charge you with corruption in general or whatever and hang you.”
- anigbrowl 4y agoI did read the comment at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34363208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34363208 I felt you misrepresented it, and that you have done again here. It makes a simple policy argument that there should be sterner consequences for lying to the public, contrasting the US with some other countries. You have rewritten it to say something quite different.
- yreg 4y agoWhat do you think 'No law was broken, you would say. Still. There should be consequences.' means? What do you think 'In China, prosecutors would chalk it up to general charges of "corruption" or "public dishonesty" or whatever.' means?
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- kristopolous 4y agoIt's a position of honor and integrity that carries a burden of the public trust. If people are exposed as underhanded scoundrels, they should be stripped of the privilege of being in c-suites. We have rules by the SEC that do similar things for other crimes and analogous rules for other professions like law and medicine. If someone abuses a child, they can't be around children anymore, if someone gets a restraining order because they're being harassed, the harasser is restricted as well. When someone does egregious crimes while acting as an executive, they shouldn't be allowed to be an executive any more
- sn0w_crash 4y agoChina executing a person is not an example I’m interested in modeling anything after.