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US-East-1 is pretty famous for being unreliable. The other zones tend to be a lot more reliable in comparison.

acdha 4y ago
There’s also a lot of selection bias: that region is the most popular and people remember hearing about problems a lot more than the people who were unaffected but didn’t say anything about it. I’ve had plenty of instances in us-east-1 for over a decade without downtime other than the 17 minutes in 2011 where they had a network routing issue which kept the entire region running but off of the internet. I never had that with a colo - power outages & backhoes - but several came close. For me, I’d tend to focus the question on how screwed you are if something goes down. You can save a ton of money for a bandwidth-heavy service if you use a colo so it’d really be a question of how easy it is to make it redundant (short outage) and rebuild (long outage or permanent equipment failure).
- karmakaze 4y ago
  It's well known that us-east-1 (the very first) is a pet among AWS's cattle regions. It has failure modes that none of the other regions have.
  - acdha 4y ago
    I’m aware, but my point was simply that people are prone to overstating the extent of those problems. If it was as bad as lore would have it, it’d be far less popular.
    - karmakaze 4y ago
      Why would you think it would be less popular? Most everyone that chooses us-east-1 chooses it because they're close to it and 1 is the first number. They don't research it before they start using it.
      - acdha 4y ago
        If people were experiencing significant downtime they’d leave us-east-1 or AWS. There’s no sign of that happening so I’d suggest that there’s a tendency to over-weight the degree to which people complaining in forums constitutes representative data.
        karmakaze 4y ago
        The discussion started as us-east-1 being less reliable than other regions and has strayed far from that into guessing about human behaviour.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    "Well known" That's not sufficient evidence

There’s also a lot of selection bias: that region is the most popular and people remember hearing about problems a lot more than the people who were unaffected but didn’t say anything about it. I’ve had plenty of instances in us-east-1 for over a decade without downtime other than the 17 minutes in 2011 where they had a network routing issue which kept the entire region running but off of the internet. I never had that with a colo - power outages & backhoes - but several came close. For me, I’d tend to focus the question on how screwed you are if something goes down. You can save a ton of money for a bandwidth-heavy service if you use a colo so it’d really be a question of how easy it is to make it redundant (short outage) and rebuild (long outage or permanent equipment failure).

karmakaze 4y ago
It's well known that us-east-1 (the very first) is a pet among AWS's cattle regions. It has failure modes that none of the other regions have.
- acdha 4y ago
  I’m aware, but my point was simply that people are prone to overstating the extent of those problems. If it was as bad as lore would have it, it’d be far less popular.
  - karmakaze 4y ago
    Why would you think it would be less popular? Most everyone that chooses us-east-1 chooses it because they're close to it and 1 is the first number. They don't research it before they start using it.
    - acdha 4y ago
      If people were experiencing significant downtime they’d leave us-east-1 or AWS. There’s no sign of that happening so I’d suggest that there’s a tendency to over-weight the degree to which people complaining in forums constitutes representative data.
      - karmakaze 4y ago
        The discussion started as us-east-1 being less reliable than other regions and has strayed far from that into guessing about human behaviour.
- themitigating 4y ago
  "Well known" That's not sufficient evidence