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financing terrorism (most likely related to the Russian/Ukrainian war as this is a conventional war, what do you mean financing terrorism? was he financing rus
by slim 4y ago
financing terrorism (most likely related to the Russian/Ukrainian war as
this is a conventional war, what do you mean financing terrorism? was he financing russia or ukraine?
- dmos62 4y agoYou're mistaking insurgency for terrorism. This is referring to Russia terrorizing the civilian population of Ukraine by systematically attacking purely civilian targets.
- nikolay 4y agoDidn't America do the same in Iraq? In fact, the first thing America did there was to destroy civilian infrastructure.
- dmos62 4y agoWe're not only talking about infrastructure. We're also talking about wholesale killing of civilians. And, if someone else does it, does that change what it is? Terrorism does not have an ambiguous definition.
- nikolay 4y agoYou should check America's own data on the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in Iraq! And this is not even mentioning the estimated half a million children who died due to the embargo before the war, which Madeleine Albright said was worth it in an interview!
- dmos62 4y agoGuy, you're not following me. I'm not saying US is better. I've not even mentioned it.
- nikolay 4y agoTrue, but it is a hypocrisy to bash Russia and be silent about the ongoing assaults on civilians that America keeps doing to this very day - how many civilians did Obama kill in Yemen, he even bragged about it saying, "I'm very good at killing." If we let one country go away with this, then it sets a dangerous precedent for others to use as an excuse! America continues to assassinate people in sovereign countries and feels entitled to do so. Even its involvement in Syria, which Turkiye followed shortly, was a violation of international law. And nobody says anything about Turkiye for killing Kurds in Syria!
- nikolay 4y agoAnd there's no such thing as terrorism during a war! Did America terrorize civilians in Serbia during the bombing - it surely did! Did it declare war on Serbia? Certainly not!
- dmos62 4y agoIf there's civilian terror, there's terrorism. What are you talking about. If you bomb bread lines, if your concept of siege is to pressure defenders by maximizing civilian casualties, you're a terrorist. If you use genocidal rhetoric, that doesn't help your case either. You can deflect by talking about other countries all you want. That does not matter to the victims.
- nikolay 4y agoWhich war didn't terrorize civilians? Let's not use Ukrainian PR campaigns as facts. If Russia wanted to maximize civilians damage, that's the easiest thing to do by following the playbook of America in Iraq! On the contrary, Russia is doing a ten-fold effort to accomplish its goals by minimizing civilian casualties - and that's why Ukraine is putting military targets in populated areas.
- dmos62 4y ago> Ten-fold effort to minimize civilian casualties We belong to different realities.