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Which claims specifically need a citation?

by smcl 4y ago

breck 4y ago
' when we literally have testimony'
- smcl 4y ago
  Hmm so "testimony" is a bit firm, maybe it's referring to something I haven't seen yet but I read that as referring to the backdoor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DezodR9hNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DezodR9hNI If it is the backdoor, then to be honest his own statements on it make him look more guilty of it than anything else. Here's a transcript from that interview: Tiffany Fong: There was something about a backdoor that allowed you to execute commands that could alter the companies financial records without alerting others. That this was put in place, I think that was a Reuters article which made it seem like you secretly were moving money in the background. SBF: Wait and this is something that I would be doing? TF: It kind of said that SBF put like a secret backdoor so that secretly he was moving funds to Alameda and it was undetected and that this was something that you put into place potentially. I mean that's how it read SBF: Well that's interesting because that's definitely not true I don't even know how to code, is the honest embarrassing answer. I certainly wasn't, like, building some backdoor into the system, I could barely use the system. He then goes on to describe how he used the UI, but didn't work with the underlying system and dips into a "long and almost boring story" about a little oopsie where they were wrong about the size of Alameda's balances. At this point Tiffany seems to have been distracted enough to press him on the back door (presumably the Alameda "fuck up" confession seemed more interesting). I dunno, I feel like if you're asked about using some sketchy-sounding functionality and using it to skim money, and you answer "Well I certainly didn't BUILD that!" then jingled your keys for a few minutes, it’s pretty clear you were involved somehow
  - SilverBirch 4y ago
    > The complaint alleges that Wang created FTX’s software code that allowed Alameda to divert FTX customer funds, https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-234 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-234 That’s the press release from the SEC about their charges , saying Wang built a back door and Wang has pled guilty to those charges.
    - smcl 4y ago
      The aim of the question was clearly to establish whether a back door existed and how SBF used it, not whether SBF himself implemented one.

Which claims specifically need a citation?

by smcl 4y ago

Which claims specifically need a citation?

breck 4y ago

' when we literally have testimony'

smcl 4y ago
Hmm so "testimony" is a bit firm, maybe it's referring to something I haven't seen yet but I read that as referring to the backdoor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DezodR9hNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DezodR9hNI If it is the backdoor, then to be honest his own statements on it make him look more guilty of it than anything else. Here's a transcript from that interview: Tiffany Fong: There was something about a backdoor that allowed you to execute commands that could alter the companies financial records without alerting others. That this was put in place, I think that was a Reuters article which made it seem like you secretly were moving money in the background. SBF: Wait and this is something that I would be doing? TF: It kind of said that SBF put like a secret backdoor so that secretly he was moving funds to Alameda and it was undetected and that this was something that you put into place potentially. I mean that's how it read SBF: Well that's interesting because that's definitely not true I don't even know how to code, is the honest embarrassing answer. I certainly wasn't, like, building some backdoor into the system, I could barely use the system. He then goes on to describe how he used the UI, but didn't work with the underlying system and dips into a "long and almost boring story" about a little oopsie where they were wrong about the size of Alameda's balances. At this point Tiffany seems to have been distracted enough to press him on the back door (presumably the Alameda "fuck up" confession seemed more interesting). I dunno, I feel like if you're asked about using some sketchy-sounding functionality and using it to skim money, and you answer "Well I certainly didn't BUILD that!" then jingled your keys for a few minutes, it’s pretty clear you were involved somehow
- SilverBirch 4y ago
  > The complaint alleges that Wang created FTX’s software code that allowed Alameda to divert FTX customer funds, https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-234 https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2022-234 That’s the press release from the SEC about their charges , saying Wang built a back door and Wang has pled guilty to those charges.
  - smcl 4y ago
    The aim of the question was clearly to establish whether a back door existed and how SBF used it, not whether SBF himself implemented one.