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This blind trust in technologies is very very wrong. We are part of the system and things should always be designed to keep us as powerful fallbacks/system-degr

This blind trust in technologies is very very wrong. We are part of the system and things should always be designed to keep us as powerful fallbacks/system-degradation resource.

JoeAltmaier 4y ago
I'd agree, yet I proceed from green lights with little regard; I drink the water from the tap; I use Paypal; I take aspirin from a bottle from heaven-knows-where. We've entered the age of 'blind trust in technology'. We can hardly get out of bed without it.
- gregoriol 4y ago
  We can't verify everything ourselves, that's why there is a framework (green lights, laws, ...) and society (others do things you can't do). In Tesla's case, the failure is that they are testing a new way of doing things without properly saying it, Muskito is pushing for "it works" while it actually is only being in the early stages. This is a failure to society, like the 737 Max and should be judged accordingly.
- sebastianconcpt 4y ago
  There is a "pass the test of time" factor involved. If natural selection approves, then you surely can be more confident and even pay less attention because time guaranteed that plenty of diverse cases didn't compromised the survivability of the system and the system needs you less to achieve its success rate as designed. Then it comes innovation. Which necessarily starts with limited cases. And we use to launch business and products as soon as we can. Hence, with the minimum acceptable cases. This is fine as long as failures cause minor reparable degradations instead of catastrophic unsurvivable cases. And still, we need systems designed with every layer having the feature of graceful degradations. That enables us to perform as Woody and Buzz Lightyear said: "Falling with style"
  - JoeAltmaier 4y ago
    Disagree. We used coal to heat for generations, even though it killed thousands. We drive in traffic but 100 people die each day on the road in the US. It's all about social acceptance, and hardly about safety at all.
    - sebastianconcpt 4y ago
      Right, 100 in absolute numbers. But that would be what fail rate as % when measuring total success cases of people pleasantly arriving to their destinations uneventfully?

This blind trust in technologies is very very wrong. We are part of the system and things should always be designed to keep us as powerful fallbacks/system-degradation resource.

JoeAltmaier 4y ago

I'd agree, yet I proceed from green lights with little regard; I drink the water from the tap; I use Paypal; I take aspirin from a bottle from heaven-knows-where. We've entered the age of 'blind trust in technology'. We can hardly get out of bed without it.

gregoriol 4y ago
We can't verify everything ourselves, that's why there is a framework (green lights, laws, ...) and society (others do things you can't do). In Tesla's case, the failure is that they are testing a new way of doing things without properly saying it, Muskito is pushing for "it works" while it actually is only being in the early stages. This is a failure to society, like the 737 Max and should be judged accordingly.
sebastianconcpt 4y ago
There is a "pass the test of time" factor involved. If natural selection approves, then you surely can be more confident and even pay less attention because time guaranteed that plenty of diverse cases didn't compromised the survivability of the system and the system needs you less to achieve its success rate as designed. Then it comes innovation. Which necessarily starts with limited cases. And we use to launch business and products as soon as we can. Hence, with the minimum acceptable cases. This is fine as long as failures cause minor reparable degradations instead of catastrophic unsurvivable cases. And still, we need systems designed with every layer having the feature of graceful degradations. That enables us to perform as Woody and Buzz Lightyear said: "Falling with style"
- JoeAltmaier 4y ago
  Disagree. We used coal to heat for generations, even though it killed thousands. We drive in traffic but 100 people die each day on the road in the US. It's all about social acceptance, and hardly about safety at all.
  - sebastianconcpt 4y ago
    Right, 100 in absolute numbers. But that would be what fail rate as % when measuring total success cases of people pleasantly arriving to their destinations uneventfully?