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I'm not so sure that the behaviours on one system are necessarily "better". I know that my preferences lie in one direction (away from MacOS), and I infer that

I'm not so sure that the behaviours on one system are necessarily "better". I know that my preferences lie in one direction (away from MacOS), and I infer that yours lie in another. If a computer is a tool to get some set of things done, and these can be achieved with equivalent ease in systems which align to your preferences compared to the those which align with mine, then those preferences must be subjective. Phones have a different pedigree -- I'm not upset if an app that's "open" is unloaded after some time or due to system pressure, even if I lose state on my phone, possibly because that's how things have always been (for a given value of "always"), and possibly also because phones don't have a dock or task bar to track "running" apps. On a computer, if the app windows being closed means the app is (mostly) unloaded and I will need to restore state with a new window, why not close it entirely? What does having it sitting in the dock with a dot consuming (admittedly few) resources give me beyond just pinning a shortcut?

tinus_hn 4y ago
You are prepared to fight the system, while you don’t know why it is doing what it is doing and what you are gaining by fighting. Your arguments are mostly ‘I’m used to Windows doing X so that’s what I want on the Mac.’ If you want Windows, use Windows, that’s a lot easier than trying to get Mac OS to be Windows. It’s not Windows, if you can get used to what it is you’ll have a great time and if not you’ll end up frustrating yourself.
- AlabasterAxe 4y ago
  This smacks of the typical Apple, "you're holding it wrong" condescension. I understand why MacOS does things the way it does most of the time. That doesn't mean that I can't still find it frustrating.
- blep_ 4y ago
  Yes, unironically. The computer should adapt to me, not vice versa. It exists entirely to do things I tell it to do.
  - tinus_hn 4y ago
    If you want a computer that does exactly what you want the way you think you want it, clearly you should not get a Mac.

tinus_hn 4y ago

You are prepared to fight the system, while you don’t know why it is doing what it is doing and what you are gaining by fighting. Your arguments are mostly ‘I’m used to Windows doing X so that’s what I want on the Mac.’ If you want Windows, use Windows, that’s a lot easier than trying to get Mac OS to be Windows. It’s not Windows, if you can get used to what it is you’ll have a great time and if not you’ll end up frustrating yourself.

AlabasterAxe 4y ago
This smacks of the typical Apple, "you're holding it wrong" condescension. I understand why MacOS does things the way it does most of the time. That doesn't mean that I can't still find it frustrating.
blep_ 4y ago
Yes, unironically. The computer should adapt to me, not vice versa. It exists entirely to do things I tell it to do.
- tinus_hn 4y ago
  If you want a computer that does exactly what you want the way you think you want it, clearly you should not get a Mac.