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Another S.F. middle school falls into disciplinary chaos
- bitlax 4y agoLook, the point of school is about creating good citizens, not necessarily academics. That's what these policies have sought to address. And if students aren't exposed to difficult situations in schools they won't know how to handle them when they get out into the real world or something.
- gizmo686 4y agoThe correct answer in the real world is to leave (and possibly call the police). Leaving school is a crime for minors.
- bitlax 4y agoWell now you're speaking from privilege. Maybe you can escape from your dysfunctional circumstances but a lot of people can't.
- Tronno 4y agoAdversity can be character-building as you say, but too much can be disruptive or traumatic, especially for a child. Studying next to beatings, arrests, and armed classmates sounds like the latter end of the spectrum.
- boeingUH60 4y agoBullying does nothing to teach people about difficult situations. It’s just unnecessary cruelty. I’m not an American but I can echo a sentiment noticed in this thread. When I attended a private school, the rules were clear, bullying will get you suspended or expelled faster than you could pull it off and students saw virtually no bullying. Then I switched to a Public school where students bullied extensively with the teachers and administrators turning a blind eye…I forever loathe that school and will never send my children to a public school because of this.
- opwieurposiu 4y agoI have a friend who started a charter school. He said the reason charter schools do better is nothing to do with teaching, it is that they are allowed to kick out the trouble makers. Public schools are required to take all applicants. In the past my town had a special school where you got sent if you were caught with drugs or other major infraction. Maybe try the Danegeld approach? If a student is good all week give them $50 on Friday.
- bitlax 4y agoSo children of privilege can behave however they want?
- toomuchtodo 4y agoThat’s not what OP said. In public schools, there are no consequences versus charter schools. Whether you’re privileged or not is not entirely correlated with if you have the capacity to be a functional, effective student.
- bitlax 4y agoBut OP proposed a solution based on carrots, giving students $50 a week for good behavior. Students born with privilege will obtain a smaller benefit from this system, and will behave how they wish.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoPropose an alternative mechanism. If you can’t use a stick, and you can’t use a carrot, how else will you encourage behavior conducive to educational achievement?
- bitlax 4y agoNow you're getting it.