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In this case these are more like machines that play instruments than what most “common folk” would consider a robot. This is certainly an interesting creation

In this case these are more like machines that play instruments than what most “common folk” would consider a robot. This is certainly an interesting creation but for some reason the lack of sensors or some ability to respond to what it is doing or it’s environment seems to fall short of “robot”.

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
If we constantly have to change our technical terms to fit whatever misconceptions the "common folk" have... well that's a lot of pointless redefinition and recoining.
- linkjuice4all 4y ago
  Which one of these counts as a "music playing robot"? - Toyota Partner Bot [0] - A general purpose humanoid robot that can play a trumpet - Automatica [1] - A group of assembly arms that can play instruments - A Player Piano [2] - A bunch of servos stuck to musical instruments Arguably they're all robots - they use automation and mechanical means to actually play the instruments (not a synth reproduction of an instrument). But you'd be hard-pressed to convince someone that a player piano is a robot these days. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Partner_Robot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Partner_Robot [1] https://www.themusicman.uk/kuka-robot-nigel-stanford/ https://www.themusicman.uk/kuka-robot-nigel-stanford/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_piano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_piano
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    All of them are robots in my book. Robot is a technical term, and technical terms need precise definitions. While I see the point that laypeople might not be convinced, I'm fine with that. I don't think redefining the term is actually useful for people who design and build robots. I'm not a roboticist, but I'm sure they already have various terms to denote varying levels of autonomy and active perception.
robomartin 4y ago
I have a 25 year old Yamaha electronic piano that can play itself using stored programs or controlled over MIDI. Is it a robot? They keys are not mechanically actuated when it auto-plays. Does that cause disqualification from the "robot" category?

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago

If we constantly have to change our technical terms to fit whatever misconceptions the "common folk" have... well that's a lot of pointless redefinition and recoining.

linkjuice4all 4y ago
Which one of these counts as a "music playing robot"? - Toyota Partner Bot [0] - A general purpose humanoid robot that can play a trumpet - Automatica [1] - A group of assembly arms that can play instruments - A Player Piano [2] - A bunch of servos stuck to musical instruments Arguably they're all robots - they use automation and mechanical means to actually play the instruments (not a synth reproduction of an instrument). But you'd be hard-pressed to convince someone that a player piano is a robot these days. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Partner_Robot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Partner_Robot [1] https://www.themusicman.uk/kuka-robot-nigel-stanford/ https://www.themusicman.uk/kuka-robot-nigel-stanford/ [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_piano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_piano
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  All of them are robots in my book. Robot is a technical term, and technical terms need precise definitions. While I see the point that laypeople might not be convinced, I'm fine with that. I don't think redefining the term is actually useful for people who design and build robots. I'm not a roboticist, but I'm sure they already have various terms to denote varying levels of autonomy and active perception.

robomartin 4y ago

I have a 25 year old Yamaha electronic piano that can play itself using stored programs or controlled over MIDI. Is it a robot? They keys are not mechanically actuated when it auto-plays. Does that cause disqualification from the "robot" category?