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> if they were incapacitated. You can see them get out of the vehicle and walk around a bit in the video[0], so I guess they were not incapacitated - see aroun

> if they were incapacitated. You can see them get out of the vehicle and walk around a bit in the video[0], so I guess they were not incapacitated - see around the 46s mark in the video. The driver also claimed they were using FSD at the time the car performed the maneuver. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/108kpgo/footage_obtained_of_sf_bay_bridge_crash_claimed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/108kpgo/footag...

judge2020 4y ago
another angle: https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1612848872061128704?s=20&t=fuLN6IyO7NJKx90UUc_4vw https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/16128488720611287... The driver was on I-80. Unless this is a Tesla employee, Tesla FSD is not enabled on interstate highways at this time; when you're on a major no-stops no-traffic-light highway, it defaults to Autosteer+TACC, with his subscription likely only enabling the auto-lane-change feature. All this means is that the likely culprits are either TACC stopping on its own as if there was a car there, or the AEB system performing an emergency stop to avoid hitting a (phantom) person or car; but based on the footage, it looks like a TACC failure since it doesn't look like an emergency stop you'd see in IIHS videos[0]. 0: https://youtu.be/liQxaeGPHJg https://youtu.be/liQxaeGPHJg
- nanidin 4y ago
  FSD vs navigate on autopilot is a pretty small technical detail on the highway. Once you turn on FSD beta, from the driver's perspective FSD and autopilot are the same thing - turned on with the same input (double tap on the right stalk), with the same stuff shown on the display. Navigate on autopilot can change lanes on the highway and follow highway exits without user intervention. IMO when someone says they're using "FSD" they mean they're subscribed/paid for FSD, have the FSD beta turned on, and are letting the car drive itself (whether that's FSD on city streets, or navigate on autopilot on the highway.)
  - darknavi 4y ago
    > turned on with the same input (double tap on the right stalk), with the same stuff shown on the display. Small nit but this isn't true. FSD will show the newer, much more detailed preview. When switching to highway mode it will revert to the old, plane grey lines preview.

judge2020 4y ago

another angle: https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1612848872061128704?s=20&t=fuLN6IyO7NJKx90UUc_4vw https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/16128488720611287... The driver was on I-80. Unless this is a Tesla employee, Tesla FSD is not enabled on interstate highways at this time; when you're on a major no-stops no-traffic-light highway, it defaults to Autosteer+TACC, with his subscription likely only enabling the auto-lane-change feature. All this means is that the likely culprits are either TACC stopping on its own as if there was a car there, or the AEB system performing an emergency stop to avoid hitting a (phantom) person or car; but based on the footage, it looks like a TACC failure since it doesn't look like an emergency stop you'd see in IIHS videos[0]. 0: https://youtu.be/liQxaeGPHJg https://youtu.be/liQxaeGPHJg

nanidin 4y ago
FSD vs navigate on autopilot is a pretty small technical detail on the highway. Once you turn on FSD beta, from the driver's perspective FSD and autopilot are the same thing - turned on with the same input (double tap on the right stalk), with the same stuff shown on the display. Navigate on autopilot can change lanes on the highway and follow highway exits without user intervention. IMO when someone says they're using "FSD" they mean they're subscribed/paid for FSD, have the FSD beta turned on, and are letting the car drive itself (whether that's FSD on city streets, or navigate on autopilot on the highway.)
- darknavi 4y ago
  > turned on with the same input (double tap on the right stalk), with the same stuff shown on the display. Small nit but this isn't true. FSD will show the newer, much more detailed preview. When switching to highway mode it will revert to the old, plane grey lines preview.