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> The Montana Republican Party has ... a state representative named John Fuller, who published an opinion column in The Flathead Beacon earlier that year declar
by kthejoker2 4y ago
> The Montana Republican Party has ... a state representative named John Fuller, who published an opinion column in The Flathead Beacon earlier that year declaring that democracy had “failed as miserably as socialism."
> Keith Regier, an influential state senator, said all laws should be based on Judeo-Christian principles. “The Ten Commandments were a good foundation for any country to live by,” he told me .. I told him that I’d heard other Montanans voice feelings of persecution because of the imposition of Christian doctrine. Was there a middle ground to be found? “There probably isn’t a middle,” he said. “You can’t have both.”
> On the day after the Billings convention in July, couples filed into Grace Bible Church for the morning service. [Montana governor Greg] Gianforte greeted Hughes and a handful of the other parishioners before sitting down next to his wife and near two notable visitors: the Nebraska governor Pete Ricketts and Trump’s former press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who were in Montana for a gathering of the Republican Governors Association.
> Hughes yielded the stage to a visiting pastor named Brad Bigney, who dedicated much of the sermon to reassuring parishioners that, though they might feel uncertain, they had to believe that God was in control of their destinies. “We seem like a remnant,” Bigney said. “We seem weak. We seem like we don’t have enough resources. We seem — Hello, read your Bible! It always looks that way! I hear people saying now, ‘My America, I don’t even feel comfortable in my America.’ I get it. But this isn’t our final home,” he continued. “He’s testing us, you guys, and I’m sad to say we’ve got some believers that are failing the test. It looks like they never truly trusted in God and that’s being exposed now."
> " They trusted in their country.”
Nope, definitely not espousing anti-democratic, totalitarian ideas. Definitely not wanting to infringe on other's rights to ... well, what is their goal exactly?
> If you want to live here,” Karla Johnson, a chapter president of the Montana Federation of Republican Women, said, “be a Christian.”
Oh, cool then.
( https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/magazine/montana-republicans-christian-nationalism.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/11/magazine/montana-republic... )
- jimmygrapes 4y agoI really don't think NY Times is interested in describing this particular gathering in anything but an intentionally negative light, yet even with that presumed bias I see only one statement there that seems even slightly offensive ("be a Christian") and it is presented in such a way that context not mentioned may or may not reduce the weirdness of it. Only somebody already dedicated to hatred of people espousing these beliefs would find those quoted bits to be "anti-democratic, totalitarian ideas". Take a step back, do some mad-libs and replace nouns with ones you'd prefer. It's a good exercise to see if maybe you're overreacting irrationally.
- hgsgm 4y agoHow would you describe someone who wants to discard the Constitution deport 50million natural born citizens just for not believing in their god?
- jimmygrapes 4y agoI'm not a huge fan of arguing for or against the sort of straw man you've hypothesized here, but, if pressed, I'd describe that imaginary person (who I must stress is indeed a weak straw man indeed) as someone not fully familiar with any aspect of history or humanity beyond undying loyalty to their beliefs (which are also a cumulatively developed secondary straw man generated in this hypothetical scenario which is, to my knowledge, not held by any actual person regardless of the assumed intent you may impart), and who may or may not be persuaded to reconsider otherwise when faced with even the slightest bit of welcomed antagonism. That is to say, I don't know how to play in your fantasy world, since you have not developed it very well.
- erulabs 4y agoWell said. "I don't know how to play in your fantasy world, since you have not developed it very well" is perfect, consider the saying stolen!
- kthejoker2 4y agoThanks, not really looking for critical reading advice from someone who thinks those quotes are just standard political discourse.