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> Many who grow up in the NY area grow up on pizza. Average pizza slice that we're discussing is according to https://www.nutritionix.com/i/nutritionix/new-yor

> Many who grow up in the NY area grow up on pizza. Average pizza slice that we're discussing is according to https://www.nutritionix.com/i/nutritionix/new-york-style-pizza-slice-1-slice/5702be98746faf380d44f3b4 https://www.nutritionix.com/i/nutritionix/new-york-style-piz... 500+ calories, lots of saturated fat, lots of sodium. How healthy is it to grow up on pizza?

lotsofpulp 4y ago
>How healthy is it to grow up on pizza? See USA statistics for obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease.
- moloch-hai 4y ago
  That you can blame on sugar in everything. Even what was blamed on saturated fat turns out to be caused by sugar and trans fat ("hydrogenated vegetable oil", now more-or-less banned, with certain disgraceful exceptions). Pizza is relatively benign.
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    The dough is all carbs, which causes the same problem as sugar, and I am sure many places use sugar in their sauce. Unless you are doing a lot of cardio, a slice of cheese pizza is pretty void of nutrition.
    - moloch-hai 4y ago
      The starch in dough is broken up into glucose, which is absolutely fine: nobody gets sick from eating starch. It would be better with some fiber, so your intestinal bacteria could have some of it. The problem with sugar is that it is half fructose, and fructose is processed on the same pathway as alcohol, in the liver, and causes the same illnesses as alcohol. It is much better, if you must eat it, to eat enough fiber with it that your intestinal bacteria get much of it instead. If you don't keep your intestinal bacteria well-fed, they are obliged to eat you instead.
    - kortilla 4y ago
      > slice of cheese pizza is pretty void of nutrition. Unless you’re excluding the cheese, this is way off
    - rcme 4y ago
      Mozzarella is like 22% protein by weight.
    - refurb 4y ago
      Disagree. Glycemic index is vastly different when it’s combined with protein and fat. It’s not going to have a lot vitamins, but it’s pretty balanced in terms of the carb/protein/fat You’d do worse eating a plate of white rice with soy sauce.
kaesar14 4y ago
Grow up on can mean a lot of things here, I and many other New Yorkers would take it to mean the food that has the most significance in our memories. Its not about eating this stuff every day, it’s about the food we cherish.
rcme 4y ago
100g of salted mozzarella has 300 calories, saturated fat, and sodium. Ultimately, pizza is basically 3 ingredients: bread, tomato sauce, and mozzarella. Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  >Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy. What does it matter which ingredients people do and do not consider healthy? It is objectively known that the quantities of bread and mozzarella consumed by most people relative to their lifestyle is unhealthy.
  - rcme 4y ago
    The GP specifically mentioned the calories and nutritional value of pizza. Personally, I think eating 100g of mozzarella for lunch is fine.
llanowarelves 4y ago
A good point but it's less about daily diet (sure, some people might), more about it being a go-to treat, for "cheat days" (days set aside to "cheat" during your diet), parties, sports games, work or school special occasions, etc.

lotsofpulp 4y ago

>How healthy is it to grow up on pizza? See USA statistics for obesity, diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease.

moloch-hai 4y ago
That you can blame on sugar in everything. Even what was blamed on saturated fat turns out to be caused by sugar and trans fat ("hydrogenated vegetable oil", now more-or-less banned, with certain disgraceful exceptions). Pizza is relatively benign.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  The dough is all carbs, which causes the same problem as sugar, and I am sure many places use sugar in their sauce. Unless you are doing a lot of cardio, a slice of cheese pizza is pretty void of nutrition.
  - moloch-hai 4y ago
    The starch in dough is broken up into glucose, which is absolutely fine: nobody gets sick from eating starch. It would be better with some fiber, so your intestinal bacteria could have some of it. The problem with sugar is that it is half fructose, and fructose is processed on the same pathway as alcohol, in the liver, and causes the same illnesses as alcohol. It is much better, if you must eat it, to eat enough fiber with it that your intestinal bacteria get much of it instead. If you don't keep your intestinal bacteria well-fed, they are obliged to eat you instead.
  - kortilla 4y ago
    > slice of cheese pizza is pretty void of nutrition. Unless you’re excluding the cheese, this is way off
  - rcme 4y ago
    Mozzarella is like 22% protein by weight.
  - refurb 4y ago
    Disagree. Glycemic index is vastly different when it’s combined with protein and fat. It’s not going to have a lot vitamins, but it’s pretty balanced in terms of the carb/protein/fat You’d do worse eating a plate of white rice with soy sauce.

kaesar14 4y ago

Grow up on can mean a lot of things here, I and many other New Yorkers would take it to mean the food that has the most significance in our memories. Its not about eating this stuff every day, it’s about the food we cherish.

rcme 4y ago

100g of salted mozzarella has 300 calories, saturated fat, and sodium. Ultimately, pizza is basically 3 ingredients: bread, tomato sauce, and mozzarella. Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy.

lotsofpulp 4y ago
>Most people don’t consider those individual ingredients particularly unhealthy. What does it matter which ingredients people do and do not consider healthy? It is objectively known that the quantities of bread and mozzarella consumed by most people relative to their lifestyle is unhealthy.
- rcme 4y ago
  The GP specifically mentioned the calories and nutritional value of pizza. Personally, I think eating 100g of mozzarella for lunch is fine.

llanowarelves 4y ago

A good point but it's less about daily diet (sure, some people might), more about it being a go-to treat, for "cheat days" (days set aside to "cheat" during your diet), parties, sports games, work or school special occasions, etc.