Yeah, very similar experiences across multiple different managers back when I worked at MSFT. The first one was always supportive and encouraging people to take

Yeah, very similar experiences across multiple different managers back when I worked at MSFT. The first one was always supportive and encouraging people to take time off, I really appreciated having her as my first manager at the company. And the second one had a very full-on laizes-faire attitude where as long as your work was done, he couldn't care less where you were or what you were doing. Literally told me once "if you are going to be out for a week or longer, just let me know ahead of time, otherwise it's your business". But he was also the one who was entirely no-bs, and if you were abusing this or slacking, you won't be on his team for long. One of the very few MSFT managers I've met who actually was willing to fire people (but it happened very rarely, as people knew not to slack or mess around on his team). If you manage to get all your work done in 4 days instead of 5 or prefer to work short days and then catch up on things at late night hours? Your call, as long as the results of your work are there. Ironically enough, he was known in the org as someone who was really smart and got his team to consistently deliver on expectations and beyond. Turns out that when you hire the people for your team who get that attitude, and then you treat them like humans and not like some cattle, the results tend to follow. I feel very fortunate to have worked with that manager, not in the least because he was also incredibly sharp on a technical level (but was also smart enough to understand that he shouldn't be spending any significant amount of his time as a manager writing code).