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Oceans were the hottest ever recorded in 2022, analysis shows

olivermarks 4y ago
'The records, starting in 1958, show an inexorable rise in ocean temperature, with an acceleration in warming after 1990'. A millisecond of measurement in planetary age terms, using new technologies that may not be accurate. 'The international team of scientists that produced the new ocean heat analysis concluded: “The Earth’s energy and water cycles have been profoundly altered due to the emission of greenhouse gases by human activities, driving pervasive changes in Earth’s climate system.”' Who are these people? Not cited anywhere unless it is this link related to a separate point in the very confusing and alarmist article: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00376-023-2385-2 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00376-023-2385-2 Which seems to state 'Reliable ocean temperature measurements stretch back to 1940' (rather than 1958) 'but it is 'likely' the oceans are now at their hottest for 1,000 years and heating faster than any time in the last 2,000 years'. This s the sort of confused mumbo jumbo ('The oceans absorbed about 10 zettajoules more heat in 2022 than in 2021, equivalent to every person on Earth running 40 hairdryers all day, every day') that gets people experiencing emotional climate anxiety stressed out of their minds. the Graun is a poster child for this endless irresponsible alarmism, it must be inflicting terrible psychological damage on a lot of people. I'm all for repsonsible reporting of research by credible groups of scientists. This isn't that at all and will probably join the giant heap of academic 'peer reviewed' past junk science like these brassy UN predictions by Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program from 1998: https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 Anyone who calls out these often absurd alarmists after the fact tend to get insulted and down voted. Why is that?
- jaggs 4y ago
  That's very interesting. Thanks. Do you know of any reports which aren't alarmist which we can view?
  - olivermarks 4y ago
    Thanks for reinforcing my last point with a patronizing response
    - jaggs 4y ago
      Um..that was absolutely not patronising. I apologize if it came across that way. I genuinely felt you might have some valuable information to share. We need to work together to clarify the facts as much as possible, surely?

'The records, starting in 1958, show an inexorable rise in ocean temperature, with an acceleration in warming after 1990'. A millisecond of measurement in planetary age terms, using new technologies that may not be accurate. 'The international team of scientists that produced the new ocean heat analysis concluded: “The Earth’s energy and water cycles have been profoundly altered due to the emission of greenhouse gases by human activities, driving pervasive changes in Earth’s climate system.”' Who are these people? Not cited anywhere unless it is this link related to a separate point in the very confusing and alarmist article: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00376-023-2385-2 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00376-023-2385-2 Which seems to state 'Reliable ocean temperature measurements stretch back to 1940' (rather than 1958) 'but it is 'likely' the oceans are now at their hottest for 1,000 years and heating faster than any time in the last 2,000 years'. This s the sort of confused mumbo jumbo ('The oceans absorbed about 10 zettajoules more heat in 2022 than in 2021, equivalent to every person on Earth running 40 hairdryers all day, every day') that gets people experiencing emotional climate anxiety stressed out of their minds. the Graun is a poster child for this endless irresponsible alarmism, it must be inflicting terrible psychological damage on a lot of people. I'm all for repsonsible reporting of research by credible groups of scientists. This isn't that at all and will probably join the giant heap of academic 'peer reviewed' past junk science like these brassy UN predictions by Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program from 1998: https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 https://apnews.com/article/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0 Anyone who calls out these often absurd alarmists after the fact tend to get insulted and down voted. Why is that?

jaggs 4y ago
That's very interesting. Thanks. Do you know of any reports which aren't alarmist which we can view?
- olivermarks 4y ago
  Thanks for reinforcing my last point with a patronizing response
  - jaggs 4y ago
    Um..that was absolutely not patronising. I apologize if it came across that way. I genuinely felt you might have some valuable information to share. We need to work together to clarify the facts as much as possible, surely?