yeah its debatable that many white collar jobs fit the definition of "providing value" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make-work_job https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

yeah its debatable that many white collar jobs fit the definition of "providing value" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make-work_job https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make-work_job] and the things that people actually value (lots of creative ventures) tend to be greatly undervalued to the point its hard to support ones self unless your and elite few