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I agree, but I am quite cautious of technology which prevents me from doing something and much more comfortable with and welcoming of technology that informs me

I agree, but I am quite cautious of technology which prevents me from doing something and much more comfortable with and welcoming of technology that informs me that I'm doing something unsafe, so that I can not do that thing. There is a post going around just this morning about a Tesla that stopped itself on a major bridge in San Diego and caused a huge accident and pileup. I don't want technology that has the ability to take action like that on it's own. I don't trust it's decision making enough for that. The idea is baffling to me that anyone lets self-driving software pilot a multi-ton steel missile that contains the only body they will ever get hurtling through an asphalt field full of other humans and an environment that is often not predictable and actively hostile. I write automation for a living, and like everyone else I know that does the same I want automation in safety-critical applications to be as simple, bulletproof, and limited as possible. Self-driving software does not fall into that category right now. Some day it probably will. Until that time I won't be buying it.

judge2020 4y ago
> There is a post going around just this morning about a Tesla that stopped itself on a major bridge in San Diego and caused a huge accident and pileup. I don't want technology that has the ability to take action like that on it's own. I don't trust it's decision making enough for that There is still almost no information on this crash, probably because Tesla HQ stopped Elon from writing blog posts to put the record straight on PR-harming issues [0]. The fact of the matter is that the person was not using "Full Self-Driving Beta", given it does not activate on highways yet; the only real possibility is Enhanced Autopilot, ie. the driver hit the left turn stalk, the car moved over for them, and it detected a stopped car in front of it, either triggering the AEB system (which can slam on the brakes completely independently from every other system) or TACC detected a car and came to a safe stop as if the traffic in that lane was already stopped. My guess is confused pedals or both pedals being depressed at the same time, since the accelerator will not spin the tires if you're on the brake whatsoever. 0: https://www.tesla.com/blog/not-so-revealing-story https://www.tesla.com/blog/not-so-revealing-story

judge2020 4y ago

> There is a post going around just this morning about a Tesla that stopped itself on a major bridge in San Diego and caused a huge accident and pileup. I don't want technology that has the ability to take action like that on it's own. I don't trust it's decision making enough for that There is still almost no information on this crash, probably because Tesla HQ stopped Elon from writing blog posts to put the record straight on PR-harming issues [0]. The fact of the matter is that the person was not using "Full Self-Driving Beta", given it does not activate on highways yet; the only real possibility is Enhanced Autopilot, ie. the driver hit the left turn stalk, the car moved over for them, and it detected a stopped car in front of it, either triggering the AEB system (which can slam on the brakes completely independently from every other system) or TACC detected a car and came to a safe stop as if the traffic in that lane was already stopped. My guess is confused pedals or both pedals being depressed at the same time, since the accelerator will not spin the tires if you're on the brake whatsoever. 0: https://www.tesla.com/blog/not-so-revealing-story https://www.tesla.com/blog/not-so-revealing-story