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"Visa holders get one 30-minute paid consultation with an immigration attorney" wow

by qaq 4y ago

mathieuh 4y ago
I know lawyers can be verbose but surely it takes less than 30 minutes to say “you’re fucked”
- notch656c 4y ago
  Hey it's not "you're fucked!" It's your fucked unless your true love decided today was the day to get married!
- muzz 4y ago
  Companies often keep visa'd employees on payroll so they have more time to find another job. I personally feel this goes against the temporary intent of the visa, but it's a very common practice.
12311231231 4y ago
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nvdnadj92 4y ago
better than nothing, in my opinion. At least they were considered.
- throw1230 4y ago
  almost equal to nothing.
- qcic 4y ago
  this is worth, like $500. would have looked better if they didn't even have this at all.
  - pigtailgirl 4y ago
    -- $500 is a lot of money --
    - cryptonym 4y ago
      it depends in which pockets you put the money
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
  - all2 4y ago
    I'd consider this a blessing, tbh. Just the fact that there's an attorney on call that I can ask questions of, and I can talk to my friends who also talked to the consultant instead of hunting down an attorney for myself -- or more likely not and just going it alone and reading the documentation myself (I know guys who do this). There's a lot of benefit here for those who need guidance.
  - dandellion 4y ago
    Let's say there's 15 people with visas, they're probably going to have very similar conditions. The company pays a lawyer for two days of work, one full-time work day to look carefully into what options people with visa have, and another day to spend 30 minutes with each person individually to explain the situation and answer any question they might have. If each individual goes to a lawyer and they want the same treatment, it's not going to cost them $500, it will cost them significantly more.
  - kyawzazaw 4y ago
    less than that. I see $250 as an hour for many immigration lawyers so this is like $125.
themitigating 4y ago
Seriously? Look at their other severance benefits. Besides if you need an attorney for an immigration case it would be a massive amount of hours. The 30 minutes consultation is helpful to decide if you need to pursue a case. I can't believe with all they are giving you still had to shit on it somehow.
- qaq 4y ago
  Tell me you never dealt with US visa system without telling me you never dealt with US visa system
  - paulgb 4y ago
    I've had at least half a dozen US visas (J-1, TN, H-1B, plus renewals, then EAD and now permanent residency). I would have appreciated this benefit if I'd been laid off.
    - qaq 4y ago
      The only tangible benefit would be to keep people on payroll instead of severance which would more than double the time they have available to find the next job
      - kyawzazaw 4y ago
        There's a new ruling for H-1B visa holder with I-140 approved.
        what_ever 4y ago
        What's this new ruling?
        qaq 4y ago
        Which nice but there are a lot of H-1B visa holders without I-140 approved
  - 4y ago
prepend 4y ago
I think it basically means they can’t answer visa related questions so anything they can’t answer gets punted to this consult. It’s a consideration that they’ll have lots of questions that would have been “I don’t know, go find an attorney.” So now it’s “we paid this attorney to answer you up to 30 minutes.” Visa holders are extra hosed during layoffs, but there’s not really any way to avoid this as you can’t favor visa holders to not be laid off.
- notch656c 4y ago
  The attorney may have even paid the company. Getting 1:1 contact with hundreds of recently highly-paid clients that need your services is likely worth not only doing free but paying the company laying off for the privilege. The 30 minutes is enough for the commercial, not the actual services.
- jejeyyy77 4y ago
  US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.
  - chimeracoder 4y ago
    > US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants. That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think. Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.
    - qaq 4y ago
      Not true for Canada and most of EU.
      - chimeracoder 4y ago
        > Not true for Canada and most of EU. I don't know where you get this idea but that is absolutely not the case.

"Visa holders get one 30-minute paid consultation with an immigration attorney" wow

by qaq 4y ago

"Visa holders get one 30-minute paid consultation with an immigration attorney" wow

mathieuh 4y ago

I know lawyers can be verbose but surely it takes less than 30 minutes to say “you’re fucked”

notch656c 4y ago
Hey it's not "you're fucked!" It's your fucked unless your true love decided today was the day to get married!
muzz 4y ago
Companies often keep visa'd employees on payroll so they have more time to find another job. I personally feel this goes against the temporary intent of the visa, but it's a very common practice.

12311231231 4y ago

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nvdnadj92 4y ago

better than nothing, in my opinion. At least they were considered.

throw1230 4y ago
almost equal to nothing.
qcic 4y ago
this is worth, like $500. would have looked better if they didn't even have this at all.
- pigtailgirl 4y ago
  -- $500 is a lot of money --
  - cryptonym 4y ago
    it depends in which pockets you put the money
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- all2 4y ago
  I'd consider this a blessing, tbh. Just the fact that there's an attorney on call that I can ask questions of, and I can talk to my friends who also talked to the consultant instead of hunting down an attorney for myself -- or more likely not and just going it alone and reading the documentation myself (I know guys who do this). There's a lot of benefit here for those who need guidance.
- dandellion 4y ago
  Let's say there's 15 people with visas, they're probably going to have very similar conditions. The company pays a lawyer for two days of work, one full-time work day to look carefully into what options people with visa have, and another day to spend 30 minutes with each person individually to explain the situation and answer any question they might have. If each individual goes to a lawyer and they want the same treatment, it's not going to cost them $500, it will cost them significantly more.
- kyawzazaw 4y ago
  less than that. I see $250 as an hour for many immigration lawyers so this is like $125.

themitigating 4y ago

Seriously? Look at their other severance benefits. Besides if you need an attorney for an immigration case it would be a massive amount of hours. The 30 minutes consultation is helpful to decide if you need to pursue a case. I can't believe with all they are giving you still had to shit on it somehow.

qaq 4y ago
Tell me you never dealt with US visa system without telling me you never dealt with US visa system
- paulgb 4y ago
  I've had at least half a dozen US visas (J-1, TN, H-1B, plus renewals, then EAD and now permanent residency). I would have appreciated this benefit if I'd been laid off.
  - qaq 4y ago
    The only tangible benefit would be to keep people on payroll instead of severance which would more than double the time they have available to find the next job
    - kyawzazaw 4y ago
      There's a new ruling for H-1B visa holder with I-140 approved.
      - what_ever 4y ago
        What's this new ruling?
      - qaq 4y ago
        Which nice but there are a lot of H-1B visa holders without I-140 approved
- 4y ago

prepend 4y ago

I think it basically means they can’t answer visa related questions so anything they can’t answer gets punted to this consult. It’s a consideration that they’ll have lots of questions that would have been “I don’t know, go find an attorney.” So now it’s “we paid this attorney to answer you up to 30 minutes.” Visa holders are extra hosed during layoffs, but there’s not really any way to avoid this as you can’t favor visa holders to not be laid off.

notch656c 4y ago
The attorney may have even paid the company. Getting 1:1 contact with hundreds of recently highly-paid clients that need your services is likely worth not only doing free but paying the company laying off for the privilege. The 30 minutes is enough for the commercial, not the actual services.
jejeyyy77 4y ago
US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.
- chimeracoder 4y ago
  > US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants. That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think. Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.
  - qaq 4y ago
    Not true for Canada and most of EU.
    - chimeracoder 4y ago
      > Not true for Canada and most of EU. I don't know where you get this idea but that is absolutely not the case.