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Apparently it's something people believed at one point in history; that the Caucuses region is where Noah's arc landed and is thus the region where white peopl

Apparently it's something people believed at one point in history; that the Caucuses region is where Noah's arc landed and is thus the region where white people originated. As a non-Christian, the term is absolutely ridiculous.

ThunderSizzle 4y ago
As a Christian, the term is absolutely ridiculous. I'd prefer to be called German Irish (or some other identifiable family history origin) or American. White or Caucasian isn't a nationality or race.
- true_religion 4y ago
  It’s a skin color, and in the US all these questions are really trying to ask that. If your father is from Ireland, but you are dark skinned then you will suffer the same prejudices and abuses as anyone or your skin color. If your father is Kenyan and you are light skinned, you will smoothly fit in with the “white majority” without anyone digging into your history. The context of US race questions is to counter US racism. Logical etymology doesn’t really apply.
  - tremon 4y ago
    So, what you're saying is that the options for race should be chosen from a colour palette rather than a dictionary?
    - hunter2_ 4y ago
      It goes beyond simply color. For example, there are people who are racist against East Asians, and if you only showed them the color on a palette, that wouldn't be enough for them to think anything of it. They'd have to see other features, and suddenly this data field has gone from text to imagery.
  - ThunderSizzle 4y ago
    > If your father is from Ireland, but you are dark skinned then you will suffer the same prejudices and abuses as anyone or your skin color. If your ancestors came to America and were Irish, they faced discrimination just as much as other groups, if not more than most, even if they had a similar color tone as other Europeans.
    - tga_d 4y ago
      For one, while the Irish faced discrimination, it was significantly less than that of non-Europeans. More importantly though, how does this have any bearing on why the question is relevant today? Are you somehow under the impression that the Irish are currently subject to extensive prejudice, or that no racialized group is?
MockObject 4y ago
Wouldn't all living people be so Caucasian, then?
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- opyate 4y ago
  It's ridiculous, isn't it? What possible genetic diversity can be had from just 3 families [0]... (Shem, Ham, Japheth) I identify most with Inyalowda [1], haha. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah#Family_tree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah#Family_tree 1. https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Inyalowda https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Inyalowda

ThunderSizzle 4y ago

As a Christian, the term is absolutely ridiculous. I'd prefer to be called German Irish (or some other identifiable family history origin) or American. White or Caucasian isn't a nationality or race.

true_religion 4y ago
It’s a skin color, and in the US all these questions are really trying to ask that. If your father is from Ireland, but you are dark skinned then you will suffer the same prejudices and abuses as anyone or your skin color. If your father is Kenyan and you are light skinned, you will smoothly fit in with the “white majority” without anyone digging into your history. The context of US race questions is to counter US racism. Logical etymology doesn’t really apply.
- tremon 4y ago
  So, what you're saying is that the options for race should be chosen from a colour palette rather than a dictionary?
  - hunter2_ 4y ago
    It goes beyond simply color. For example, there are people who are racist against East Asians, and if you only showed them the color on a palette, that wouldn't be enough for them to think anything of it. They'd have to see other features, and suddenly this data field has gone from text to imagery.
- ThunderSizzle 4y ago
  > If your father is from Ireland, but you are dark skinned then you will suffer the same prejudices and abuses as anyone or your skin color. If your ancestors came to America and were Irish, they faced discrimination just as much as other groups, if not more than most, even if they had a similar color tone as other Europeans.
  - tga_d 4y ago
    For one, while the Irish faced discrimination, it was significantly less than that of non-Europeans. More importantly though, how does this have any bearing on why the question is relevant today? Are you somehow under the impression that the Irish are currently subject to extensive prejudice, or that no racialized group is?

MockObject 4y ago

Wouldn't all living people be so Caucasian, then?

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opyate 4y ago
It's ridiculous, isn't it? What possible genetic diversity can be had from just 3 families [0]... (Shem, Ham, Japheth) I identify most with Inyalowda [1], haha. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah#Family_tree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah#Family_tree 1. https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Inyalowda https://expanse.fandom.com/wiki/Inyalowda