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The inclusion of this one: https://genders.wtf/gender/mrs-prof-dr/ https://genders.wtf/gender/mrs-prof-dr/ ... indicates that the webmaster has never been to
by SeanLuke 4y ago
The inclusion of this one: https://genders.wtf/gender/mrs-prof-dr/ https://genders.wtf/gender/mrs-prof-dr/
... indicates that the webmaster has never been to Germany etc. These are titles, not genders. In some countries the titles "Mrs.", "Doctor", "Professor" pile up into one combined title. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that drop-down list in much of Europe.
Edit: looks like I was beat to it.
- jeroenhd 4y agoThe tags "#titles #medical #academic" seem to indicate that this is well known by the web master. I personally think it's silly to require someone to fill in the title in all use cases except for the title an education facility puts on one's fancy piece of paper. There's a certain vanity to it, like programmers who insist others call them "engineers".
- huhtenberg 4y agoIs it true that "Mrs. Doctor X" means "a wife of Doctor X" and not that the lady herself is a doctor?
- kgwgk 4y agoIt could be - just like how Mrs. Thomas Jefferson’s name was Martha and not Thomas.
- luckylion 4y agoThere was no difference in German, it was "Herr Doktor" ("Mr Doctor") and you'd address his wife "Frau Doktor" ("Mrs Doctor"), so you couldn't tell who of them actually held the title (not sure what happened after divorce). Today, you need to get your own title, no more shared titles through marriage.
- algorias 4y agoIn an archaic form it does. But nowadays "Frau Doktor" usually refers to a woman who is a doctor, as "Doktor" has a male grammatical gender, so it's awkward to address a woman only as "Doktor X", even though that's technically acceptable. The grammatically female word "Doktorin" has not caught on, even though it's also correct.
- greenicon 4y agoIn Germany historically yes, but today most people mean the person him/herself.
- zyx321 4y agoA hundred and fifty years ago, yes. Fifty years ago, could be either. Nowadays, no.
- SeanLuke 4y agoThis used to be true for English as well.
- counttheforks 4y agoYes there is. Why would you possibly need to know this? You think it's more important to gather personal data just to do some email templating versus respecting the privacy of your users?
- dahfizz 4y agoAre you willing to entertain the idea that other people have different priorities than you?
- counttheforks 4y agoYes, hence the question.
- brnt 4y ago> There's absolutely nothing wrong with that drop-down list in much of Europe. And there is much wrong with it in other parts. It's two generations ago that the war against sexism put 'mrs' out of style over here, so it feels quite culturally insensitive in academic and therefore international environments to keep asking women if they are married or not.
- MajimasEyepatch 4y agoSure, but the options are in English, not German, so who cares what the custom is in Germany? No one would say, "Mrs. Prof. Dr. Smith" in English.
- SeanLuke 4y agoYou can't fathom a situation where a German website would need or want to have a drop-down for English speakers in Germany? Because that's clearly where this came from.