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I don't know of anyone measuring it but the service lines and infrastructure providing gas leak GHG's in the process all over the place. The stoves themselves l

I don't know of anyone measuring it but the service lines and infrastructure providing gas leak GHG's in the process all over the place. The stoves themselves leak a little. Modern induction stoves are far superior anyway you would be doing yourself a favour upgrading. That gas is somehow "qualitatively better," is propaganda from the gas companies to keep people choosing gas. "Now you're cooking with gas," is from a gas propaganda short aired decades ago... to keep people choosing gas when people were starting to convert to electric. There's no good reason I can think of to keep using gas stoves.

csours 4y ago
> There's no good reason I can think of to keep using gas stoves. Tortillas and marshmallows. Not enough of a reason to keep a gas stove really, but it's traditional to some people.
- ask_b123 4y ago
  I eat tortillas daily, and use a gas stove, but why couldn't I use an electric stove?
  - csours 4y ago
    You can! I just happen to love the taste of slightly flame charred tortillas.
    - ask_b123 4y ago
      Haha I see. I normally prefer non-charred tortillas because whenever they are charred it is because I forgot them in the stove so they get _very_ charred. Though I do like restaurant provided charred flour tortillas
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    You can't use a clay comal for fresh or the direct-burner method for premade, tortillas with induction (you can use a cast-iron comal or griddle with induction for either.)
    - ask_b123 4y ago
      Oh that makes sense. I use an iron comal so didn't think about clay ones (nor the direct-burner method since I only do that when I am too lazy to wait for the comal (which I usually call plancha) to heat up).
DoneWithAllThat 4y ago
The best reason I can think of is that they’re better in almost every way and your comment is mostly falsehoods, intentionally or not.
NotYourLawyer 4y ago
You think the gas companies are the propagandists here?
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  It'd be fairly insane to claim otherwise. There may be propaganda on both sides, but fossil fuel companies have a long history of involvement in the debate. For example: https://grist.org/culture/how-natural-gas-propaganda-made-it-into-elementary-classrooms-in-deep-blue-america/ https://grist.org/culture/how-natural-gas-propaganda-made-it... > The afternoon started off like most, with the 41-year-old software engineer picking his son up from John M. Tobin Montessori School in Cambridge, Massachusetts. But when his son opened his backpack, Bahmutov caught a glimpse of two children’s activity books emblazoned with the logo of Eversource, an energy utility that serves more than 4.3 million customers across New England. The booklets, one of which was titled “Natural Gas: Your Invisible Friend,” include natural gas safety tips and portray the fuel as an ideal, clean way to cook food, power vehicles, and heat and cool buildings. Bhamutov immediately noticed one gaping hole in the information provided in the booklets: They didn’t once mention that burning natural gas emits greenhouse gases and contributes to climate change. https://theintercept.com/2019/04/03/branded-content-fossil-fuel-companies/ https://theintercept.com/2019/04/03/branded-content-fossil-f... > Or was it? On closer inspection, the report wasn’t coming from the D.C. paper’s newsroom. Though the link takes you to a page published by WashingtonPost.com, the story is actually a publication of WP BrandStudio, the paper’s branded content platform. In other words, the article is really an advertisement, and the copy was paid for by the American Petroleum Institute. The tagline — “Content from American Petroleum Institute” — is plain to see if you’re looking for it, though easy to miss if you’re not.
- agentultra 4y ago
  Yes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho Literally paid for by the gas industry to keep people choosing gas.
ceejayoz 4y ago
My main issue with electric (which I have) and induction ranges is a warped pan becomes an issue immediately; it'll wobble and not make proper contact with the surface. Gas is a lot more forgiving in this regard.
infecto 4y ago
I believe new construction should not utilize natural gas at all. Your argument is a bit disengenious though. The slogan came about in the 30s-40s and yes it was with competition of electric stoves but traditional electric stoves suck. Induction only became reliable in the past few years, before that the components were not as reliable, we had many issues with component failure in our kitchen across various brands. I can think of a handful of reasons to use a NG/LP burner over induction, mostly around heavy searing and stir frying but certainly new residential builds should not include them, easier to have separate LP hob setup.
- agentultra 4y ago
  It’s been around for a lot longer and is continually paid for by the gas industry when people tried to earnestly convert away from gas: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho Modern magnetic induction is better. For me it has killed off anything about gas stoves that made them unique. Induction stoves heat fast, as hot as you need, even surface; wok, Dutch pot, whatever; I take it over gas stoves. Side hob for a round bottom wok is a great idea.
philwelch 4y ago
I recently switched from electric to gas when I moved. Gas stoves are qualitatively better and it’s not even close.
- Natsu 4y ago
  I have an electric stove at home, but a family member has gas. I was surprised that it's so much easier to cook an omelette on a gas stove.
  - philwelch 4y ago
    Anything with eggs you can really tell the difference because you can see the edges start to cook just as soon as you put it on.

csours 4y ago

> There's no good reason I can think of to keep using gas stoves. Tortillas and marshmallows. Not enough of a reason to keep a gas stove really, but it's traditional to some people.

ask_b123 4y ago
I eat tortillas daily, and use a gas stove, but why couldn't I use an electric stove?
- csours 4y ago
  You can! I just happen to love the taste of slightly flame charred tortillas.
  - ask_b123 4y ago
    Haha I see. I normally prefer non-charred tortillas because whenever they are charred it is because I forgot them in the stove so they get _very_ charred. Though I do like restaurant provided charred flour tortillas
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  You can't use a clay comal for fresh or the direct-burner method for premade, tortillas with induction (you can use a cast-iron comal or griddle with induction for either.)
  - ask_b123 4y ago
    Oh that makes sense. I use an iron comal so didn't think about clay ones (nor the direct-burner method since I only do that when I am too lazy to wait for the comal (which I usually call plancha) to heat up).

DoneWithAllThat 4y ago

The best reason I can think of is that they’re better in almost every way and your comment is mostly falsehoods, intentionally or not.

NotYourLawyer 4y ago

You think the gas companies are the propagandists here?

ceejayoz 4y ago
It'd be fairly insane to claim otherwise. There may be propaganda on both sides, but fossil fuel companies have a long history of involvement in the debate. For example: https://grist.org/culture/how-natural-gas-propaganda-made-it-into-elementary-classrooms-in-deep-blue-america/ https://grist.org/culture/how-natural-gas-propaganda-made-it... > The afternoon started off like most, with the 41-year-old software engineer picking his son up from John M. Tobin Montessori School in Cambridge, Massachusetts. But when his son opened his backpack, Bahmutov caught a glimpse of two children’s activity books emblazoned with the logo of Eversource, an energy utility that serves more than 4.3 million customers across New England. The booklets, one of which was titled “Natural Gas: Your Invisible Friend,” include natural gas safety tips and portray the fuel as an ideal, clean way to cook food, power vehicles, and heat and cool buildings. Bhamutov immediately noticed one gaping hole in the information provided in the booklets: They didn’t once mention that burning natural gas emits greenhouse gases and contributes to climate change. https://theintercept.com/2019/04/03/branded-content-fossil-fuel-companies/ https://theintercept.com/2019/04/03/branded-content-fossil-f... > Or was it? On closer inspection, the report wasn’t coming from the D.C. paper’s newsroom. Though the link takes you to a page published by WashingtonPost.com, the story is actually a publication of WP BrandStudio, the paper’s branded content platform. In other words, the article is really an advertisement, and the copy was paid for by the American Petroleum Institute. The tagline — “Content from American Petroleum Institute” — is plain to see if you’re looking for it, though easy to miss if you’re not.
agentultra 4y ago
Yes. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho Literally paid for by the gas industry to keep people choosing gas.

ceejayoz 4y ago

My main issue with electric (which I have) and induction ranges is a warped pan becomes an issue immediately; it'll wobble and not make proper contact with the surface. Gas is a lot more forgiving in this regard.

infecto 4y ago

I believe new construction should not utilize natural gas at all. Your argument is a bit disengenious though. The slogan came about in the 30s-40s and yes it was with competition of electric stoves but traditional electric stoves suck. Induction only became reliable in the past few years, before that the components were not as reliable, we had many issues with component failure in our kitchen across various brands. I can think of a handful of reasons to use a NG/LP burner over induction, mostly around heavy searing and stir frying but certainly new residential builds should not include them, easier to have separate LP hob setup.

agentultra 4y ago
It’s been around for a lot longer and is continually paid for by the gas industry when people tried to earnestly convert away from gas: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJRQo5aawho Modern magnetic induction is better. For me it has killed off anything about gas stoves that made them unique. Induction stoves heat fast, as hot as you need, even surface; wok, Dutch pot, whatever; I take it over gas stoves. Side hob for a round bottom wok is a great idea.

philwelch 4y ago

I recently switched from electric to gas when I moved. Gas stoves are qualitatively better and it’s not even close.

Natsu 4y ago
I have an electric stove at home, but a family member has gas. I was surprised that it's so much easier to cook an omelette on a gas stove.
- philwelch 4y ago
  Anything with eggs you can really tell the difference because you can see the edges start to cook just as soon as you put it on.