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Is someone who is planning multiple divert airports seriously expected to retain all of that information and recall it in the case of an emergency? Seems like

Is someone who is planning multiple divert airports seriously expected to retain all of that information and recall it in the case of an emergency? Seems like 10% of that info might be kinda useful to know and 90% of it is “BY FLYING IN OUR DIRECTION YOU AGREED TO ACCEPT …”

cjrp 4y ago
Not retain it, you probably have a copy with you which you would read if you did end up diverting somewhere. NOTAMs also affect which airports go in your "would divert to" list when you're planning the flight. E.g. if the NOTAMs say AirportA's lights are unserviceable, you wouldn't plan it as a diversion airport for your night flight.
- someguydave 4y ago
  Seems to me like “I am in a sudden aircraft emergency” is not the best time for a pilot to begin reading dry material.
  - cjrp 4y ago
    There are many reasons to divert, not all of them big emergencies. Weather at your destination is worse than forecast, for example.
ceejayoz 4y ago
You're expected to have the information with you. Having read it before flight also increase the chance that it jogs your memory; "closest airport is CVG, didn't I see something... ah, yes, nuked last week, let's go to Columbus".
VLM 4y ago
If I were a helicopter in IFR conditions and I just need a gas stop, I've never landed here, I'd forget about it, there's five heliports within 20 miles that have absolute zero drama. Legally technically the heliport is open but why risk it? If I were shooting an IFR approach for currency in perfectly clear air, or with an instructor and its midday and cloudless right now, sure, have some good training. If the engine's on fire, well, your odds are vastly better trying to land than trying to fly 20 miles away. If you're 600 feet off course and below 60 feet AGL you're probably going to crash anyway so don't worry about a crane. They just have a crane onsite fixing some things, its not like the airport is closed just don't be surprised seeing some extra flashing lights and flags.
oceanplexian 4y ago
> Is someone who is planning multiple divert airports seriously expected to retain all of that information and recall it in the case of an emergency? I am a pilot and yes, you are absolutely expected to be aware of all NOTAMS relevant to your flight. FAA examiners will make you do it on checkrides, and depending on how cute they are feeling that day, they may very well quiz you, and will gleefully fail you because you weren't aware that, say, one particular runway was out of service, or there was a runway light out somewhere.
- someguydave 4y ago
  The implication is that someone planning a long cross country trip may have dozens of NOTAMS at many diversion airports to review. At some point all the NOTAM lawyering seems a bit much.

cjrp 4y ago

Not retain it, you probably have a copy with you which you would read if you did end up diverting somewhere. NOTAMs also affect which airports go in your "would divert to" list when you're planning the flight. E.g. if the NOTAMs say AirportA's lights are unserviceable, you wouldn't plan it as a diversion airport for your night flight.

someguydave 4y ago
Seems to me like “I am in a sudden aircraft emergency” is not the best time for a pilot to begin reading dry material.
- cjrp 4y ago
  There are many reasons to divert, not all of them big emergencies. Weather at your destination is worse than forecast, for example.

ceejayoz 4y ago

You're expected to have the information with you. Having read it before flight also increase the chance that it jogs your memory; "closest airport is CVG, didn't I see something... ah, yes, nuked last week, let's go to Columbus".

VLM 4y ago

If I were a helicopter in IFR conditions and I just need a gas stop, I've never landed here, I'd forget about it, there's five heliports within 20 miles that have absolute zero drama. Legally technically the heliport is open but why risk it? If I were shooting an IFR approach for currency in perfectly clear air, or with an instructor and its midday and cloudless right now, sure, have some good training. If the engine's on fire, well, your odds are vastly better trying to land than trying to fly 20 miles away. If you're 600 feet off course and below 60 feet AGL you're probably going to crash anyway so don't worry about a crane. They just have a crane onsite fixing some things, its not like the airport is closed just don't be surprised seeing some extra flashing lights and flags.

oceanplexian 4y ago

> Is someone who is planning multiple divert airports seriously expected to retain all of that information and recall it in the case of an emergency? I am a pilot and yes, you are absolutely expected to be aware of all NOTAMS relevant to your flight. FAA examiners will make you do it on checkrides, and depending on how cute they are feeling that day, they may very well quiz you, and will gleefully fail you because you weren't aware that, say, one particular runway was out of service, or there was a runway light out somewhere.

someguydave 4y ago
The implication is that someone planning a long cross country trip may have dozens of NOTAMS at many diversion airports to review. At some point all the NOTAM lawyering seems a bit much.