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US Halts Flights Nationwide After Key FAA System Goes Down
- breck 4y agoAnyone know what language this system (NOTAM - https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/notam/what_is_a_notam https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/notam/what_is_a_notam) is written in and/or where the source code is?
- tyingq 4y agoVarious searches yield a bunch of Java related terms. One example is their reference implementation client: https://github.com/faa-swim/fns-client https://github.com/faa-swim/fns-client Not definitive since a reference implementation of a client doesn't mean the backend is similar, but...
- breck 4y agoLooks like you are right. Java and also a simple SFTP method > NOTAM information is currently published via the NOTAM Distribution Service, using two different methods: FIL (FNS Initial Load) and Java Messaging Service - JMS. > FIL provides a snapshot of all NOTAMs at a point in time - data is provided via SFTP. > JMS provides updates to existing NOTAMs and new NOTAMs. Source: https://www.topcoder.com/challenges/cf1f9fda-95d5-4469-83cb-d0d16fc240f1 https://www.topcoder.com/challenges/cf1f9fda-95d5-4469-83cb-...
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- dredmorbius 4y agoAs of 09:30 US/Eastern, some departures have resumed, NPR: <https://www.npr.org/live-updates/us-flight-delays-faa-outage https://www.npr.org/live-updates/us-flight-delays-faa-outage>
- nanna 4y ago[flagged]
- layer8 4y agoRelated thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34337158 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34337158
- zapdrive 4y agoIs this related to https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/06/27/the-disastrous-initiative-to-hire-air-traffic-controllers-based-on-diversity-not-talent/ https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/06/27/the-disastrous-initia... ?
- TheBigSalad 4y agoAre you suggesting that the software failed because there are more black air traffic controllers?
- 4pkjai 4y agoHaha I heard about this at Narita Airport earlier today. The announcement was something like “Flights to the US are delayed because of a system error”. I was thinking it was a problem at Narita!
- JumpCrisscross 4y agoAny word on the technical details of what happened?
- spking 4y agohttps://archive.ph/Vqh4o https://archive.ph/Vqh4o
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- soumyadeb 4y agoHacked?
- pjc50 4y agoThis sort of thing is almost always a mundane failure of software or change control process.
- soumyadeb 4y agoNOTAM system looks like a regular messaging/broadcast system (except the scale is much smaller). When such a system goes down for hours it feels suspicious.
- nexus7556 4y agoWhite House says no evidence of cyberattack https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/11/faa-notam-outage-flights-us/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/01/11/faa-notam-o...
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoWould they admit it publicly if it was true?
- _fizz_buzz_ 4y agoWould they risk a cover up? There must be quiet a few people working on this. And each one of them could blow the whistle. Also, what does the white house have to lose if it were a hack?
- keneda7 4y agoYa I have a hard time believing something like this could be covered up in the case it was a hack. Way to many people are directly interacting with the issue across tons of agencies. However our critical infrastructure needs to be secured in our country. This should be a major bipartisan issue too. Yet it seems like no one on either side of aisle is pushing for this. Just look at the recent attacks on power stations. If two people that want to rob some stores can take our power for thousands what can a foreign advisory hell bent on destroying the country do?
- quartz 4y ago343 out of 587 scheduled flights from JFK currently delayed: https://www.jfkairport.com/flight-tracker?view=VIEW_DEPARTURE&apt=JFK https://www.jfkairport.com/flight-tracker?view=VIEW_DEPARTUR...
- mannykannot 4y agoThe halt has been lifted. Right now there is a stream of aircraft heading south over the Delmarva peninsula. The lead aircraft departed La Guardia at about 9:00 EST. No doubt the delays will persist for some time, but at least the weather is mostly good today (except Northern California.)