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They won't "have to". But the dynamic pricing will make them "want to" turn of their non-essential appliances when they don't need them. Would it be a big prob
by ajuc 4y ago
They won't "have to". But the dynamic pricing will make them "want to" turn of their non-essential appliances when they don't need them.
Would it be a big problem for you if energy was essentially free 12 hours a day and 10 times more expansive than it is right now in the other 12 hours?
This is the only thing that we will need to change - granular, dynamic pricing to reflect the new constraints.
The rest will be solved by consumers adapting to that pricing. It might be by shifting the usage of non-essential devices (does it matter to you to have your laundry done at night?). It will likely include some batteries.
But for me the best option to me seems to be synthetic fuel production. Make hydrocarbons when there's too much solar and wind, and burn them again when there's not enough. The roundtrip efficiency is low (I think about 10% currently), but the capacity of such "battery" is effectively infinite and the investment is very cheap compared to regular batteries. The whole world already is adapted to burning hydrocarbons. So we wouldn't need to change much - just produce hydrocarbons in place instead of drilling for them in dictatorships all over the world.
BTW the implications on world politics are Earth-shattering. The difference in available renewable power per square meter in best vs worst countries is about 3 to 1 - maybe 4 to 1. Imagine if the least fortunate country on Earth had 25% of the oil that OPEC countries have.
- malka 4y ago> Would it be a big problem for you if energy was essentially free 12 hours a day and 10 times more expansive than it is right now in the other 12 hours? I would find this extremely annoying, yes.
- theshrike79 4y agoAnnoying but manageable. You don't _need_ to run your most power hungry gear during the 12 most expensive hours. And if you need to, you pay for it. Otherwise you can use the cheap power.
- leeroyjenkins11 4y agoSo why can't I tell these people who want to charge me more to F off and have them build nuclear? And is the threat of global warming enough to warrant making everyones life worse? Is adaptation more costly than stopping the use of fossil fuels?
- Schroedingersat 4y agoWhy pay more some of the time when you could pay more all of the time?
- ajuc 4y agoNuclear won't be cheaper is the main reason. You seem to think renewables will win because people are ecologically minded. That's not the case. It will win, because it scales better, it has very little paperwork or planning required, and it's very cheap. Yes - in some cases it's less convenient than traditional powerplants. But early cars couldn't go everywhere horses could. Didn't stopped them from replacing horses for 99% of usecases.