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In Germany (where this system is already available) Mercedes takes liability and the system gives the driver a 10 second advanced warning before they have to ta
by foepys 4y ago
In Germany (where this system is already available) Mercedes takes liability and the system gives the driver a 10 second advanced warning before they have to take over.
It's also only available on certain stretches of the Autobahn. If the system allows you to enable it, you can use it. The German law allows autonomous driving up to 130 km/h although Mercedes currently only allows their system to work up to 60 km/h.
- verdenti 4y agoThat just seems like adaptive cruise control. Comparing Tesla to this is apples and oranges.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> Mercedes takes liability This has to be the standard for all but the most egregious examples of other-driver-at-fault crashes. That, together with marketing standards, e.g. you can say FSD but you have to also disclose Level 2, should help clean things up while incentivizing good development.
- berkes 4y agoCertainly. But companies will offer this only if the downside risk is bearable. Which, (IANAL) is quite certainly much bigger in the US than in Germany.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> companies will offer this only if the downside risk is bearable Is the liability in Germany uncapped?
- micwag 4y agoDidn't find anything, but I imagine it's similar to normal car insurance. In Germany most insurances are capped at 100m (legal minimum is 7.7m). Most expensive accident in history was 32m.
- dx034 4y agoIt's important to note that healthcare is much cheaper in Germany than in the US. In addition to that, compensation for injuries also tends to be much lower. That massively affects the costs of accidents.
- foepys 4y agoIn Germany if you are liable for an accident the health insurance of the affected people will bill you for all incurring costs. At market rate, not at "health insurance discount" rate. I wouldn't bet that the cost in that case is lower than in the US.
- foepys 4y agoUS users are apparently confused. Germany does not have universal healthcare, everything is priced differently if you pay out of pocket.
- midoridensha 4y ago>The German law allows autonomous driving up to 130 km/h although Mercedes currently only allows their system to work up to 60 km/h. That's weird; usually laws are behind the tech, not ahead of it.
- ricardobayes 4y agoSometimes it pays off to have a cool head with tech too: have you ever seen a broken down Mercedes on the side of the road? Well, I just thought about it too, and no, never.
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- wnkrshm 4y agoSo it is only usable in congested Autobahn traffic to begin with - it's the minimum speed you're allowed to drive on a clear road. Mean speed is somewhere at ~110km/h (and you're on the slower end in my experience if you go 110 km/h).