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I’m sorry but if he didn’t include that last paragraph this would have led to an interesting discussion because what he wrote is true. I disagree with the summa

by eddsh1994 4y ago

I’m sorry but if he didn’t include that last paragraph this would have led to an interesting discussion because what he wrote is true. I disagree with the summary he’s made from that, or perhaps I disagree with the weight he’s giving to US default risk being close to that of crypto, but he’s hardly spouting some MAGA conspiracy like QAnon.

DonHopkins 4y ago
He literally admitted he hears what he's parroting from MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos, and while he claims not to believe them, he still spreads their conspiracy theories anyway, and on top of that tells people not to shut them down or else they will point fingers and play the victim. So what? Let them. They won't suddenly act reasonable and tell truth if we don't shut them down. "i read a lot of this (pretty much MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos)"
- eddsh1994 4y ago
  Take it the other way, “I’ve read X by conspiracy group Y. I think I believe it but I want to ask others first as I think they’re crazy weirdos.” We’re not bulls, we don’t have to charge when we see red (hats).
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    When Tucker Carlson says "I'm just asking", he's not just asking questions, he's spreading misinformation on purpose. And again I repeat, since you seem to be ignoring it: he tried to quote ChatGPT to support his lack of a valid argument. Nobody comes to this site to have arguments with ChatGPT, and ChatGPT and language models were certainly not the topic of this conversation. He might as well have been quoting his cat walking across the keyboard. He was unsuccessfully trying to use ChatGPT output to prove his point. If he had a valid argument that he thought of himself to support his point, then he would have posted it instead of first parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theory weirdos (which makes him their tool, witting or not), then parroting ChatGPT (which makes him a fool). Even if he frames himself as merely a self-appointed ambassador to HN for crazy liars, he's still spreading their crazy lies. And if he trusts everything ChatGPT says so much, then he can PRIVATELY ask it "I’ve read X by conspiracy group Y. I think I believe it but I want to ask others first as I think they’re crazy weirdos." instead of trying to spread those crazy lies and conspiracy theories here. Hacker News is not an appropriate forum for parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theories or ChatGPT drivel as fact, or whining about how you're the victim of oppression and censorship for being downvoted and shut down when you're clearly breaking the rules. And his threat not to shut him down or else he'll point fingers and claim to be the victim of censorship doesn't matter if crazy liars will spread crazy lies in retaliation for being shut down, because they spread crazy lies no matter what you do, so his threat that we should not shut him down for spreading crazy lies because it will make crazy liars spread crazy lies is tautological and meaningless.

DonHopkins 4y ago

He literally admitted he hears what he's parroting from MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos, and while he claims not to believe them, he still spreads their conspiracy theories anyway, and on top of that tells people not to shut them down or else they will point fingers and play the victim. So what? Let them. They won't suddenly act reasonable and tell truth if we don't shut them down. "i read a lot of this (pretty much MAGA crazed conspiracy theorist weirdos)"

eddsh1994 4y ago
Take it the other way, “I’ve read X by conspiracy group Y. I think I believe it but I want to ask others first as I think they’re crazy weirdos.” We’re not bulls, we don’t have to charge when we see red (hats).
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  When Tucker Carlson says "I'm just asking", he's not just asking questions, he's spreading misinformation on purpose. And again I repeat, since you seem to be ignoring it: he tried to quote ChatGPT to support his lack of a valid argument. Nobody comes to this site to have arguments with ChatGPT, and ChatGPT and language models were certainly not the topic of this conversation. He might as well have been quoting his cat walking across the keyboard. He was unsuccessfully trying to use ChatGPT output to prove his point. If he had a valid argument that he thought of himself to support his point, then he would have posted it instead of first parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theory weirdos (which makes him their tool, witting or not), then parroting ChatGPT (which makes him a fool). Even if he frames himself as merely a self-appointed ambassador to HN for crazy liars, he's still spreading their crazy lies. And if he trusts everything ChatGPT says so much, then he can PRIVATELY ask it "I’ve read X by conspiracy group Y. I think I believe it but I want to ask others first as I think they’re crazy weirdos." instead of trying to spread those crazy lies and conspiracy theories here. Hacker News is not an appropriate forum for parroting crazy MAGA conspiracy theories or ChatGPT drivel as fact, or whining about how you're the victim of oppression and censorship for being downvoted and shut down when you're clearly breaking the rules. And his threat not to shut him down or else he'll point fingers and claim to be the victim of censorship doesn't matter if crazy liars will spread crazy lies in retaliation for being shut down, because they spread crazy lies no matter what you do, so his threat that we should not shut him down for spreading crazy lies because it will make crazy liars spread crazy lies is tautological and meaningless.