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Jumping over to Tesla's actual page, https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport, > To ensure our statistics are conser

Jumping over to Tesla's actual page, https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport, > To ensure our statistics are conservative, we count any crash in which Autopilot was deactivated within 5 seconds before impact, and we count all crashes in which the incident alert indicated an airbag or other active restraint deployed.

7e 4y ago
Five seconds is not enough time for a human to regain situational awareness. Also, airbag crashes are quite rare compared to non-airbag crashes.
- ryantgtg 4y ago
  Why would the driver have lost situational awareness?
  - meepmorp 4y ago
    Because people all over the world have shown, when they don't feel like they have to pay attention to the road, they won't. Distracted drivers crash into other cars all the time because they're fucking with their phones, or the radio, or whatever their kid just spilled in the back seat. These are people actively engaged in driving the car who "momentarily" lose their focus and crash because they can't orient themselves to the situation in time to avert a crash. I'd expect that the illusion that the car is paying attention for you would make the situation worse.
    - ryantgtg 4y ago
      I agree. Enhanced autopilot and FSD are big mistakes and it’s a shame they are allowed. Judging by articles and by comments I read on forums, though, autopilot is a significant attraction to many owners (I own a model Y and I drive in LA with a kid in the back, and I’ve never used autopilot and have no interest). And tech blogs will give a Tesla a poor review entirely because the autopilot is wanting. If such enhanced autopilot systems are inevitable, what is the solution here? I’d assume more intense monitoring and nagging of the drivers.
  - PhasmaFelis 4y ago
    Because they haven't been driving the car.
- mwint 4y ago
  Five seconds is an eternity when driving.
  - pauljurczak 4y ago
    Eternity when driving and paying attention. Blink of an eye when letting the car drive itself as advertised.
    - NLPaep 4y ago
      But it sounds tons of alarms and lights
galoisscobi 4y ago
That's great! Thanks for linking this.

7e 4y ago

Five seconds is not enough time for a human to regain situational awareness. Also, airbag crashes are quite rare compared to non-airbag crashes.

ryantgtg 4y ago
Why would the driver have lost situational awareness?
- meepmorp 4y ago
  Because people all over the world have shown, when they don't feel like they have to pay attention to the road, they won't. Distracted drivers crash into other cars all the time because they're fucking with their phones, or the radio, or whatever their kid just spilled in the back seat. These are people actively engaged in driving the car who "momentarily" lose their focus and crash because they can't orient themselves to the situation in time to avert a crash. I'd expect that the illusion that the car is paying attention for you would make the situation worse.
  - ryantgtg 4y ago
    I agree. Enhanced autopilot and FSD are big mistakes and it’s a shame they are allowed. Judging by articles and by comments I read on forums, though, autopilot is a significant attraction to many owners (I own a model Y and I drive in LA with a kid in the back, and I’ve never used autopilot and have no interest). And tech blogs will give a Tesla a poor review entirely because the autopilot is wanting. If such enhanced autopilot systems are inevitable, what is the solution here? I’d assume more intense monitoring and nagging of the drivers.
- PhasmaFelis 4y ago
  Because they haven't been driving the car.
mwint 4y ago
Five seconds is an eternity when driving.
- pauljurczak 4y ago
  Eternity when driving and paying attention. Blink of an eye when letting the car drive itself as advertised.
  - NLPaep 4y ago
    But it sounds tons of alarms and lights

galoisscobi 4y ago

That's great! Thanks for linking this.