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> they have a right to make money from the data. I thought it was a govt service. BOM is private?

zinekeller 4y ago
You'll be surprised that the free-for-all-no-questions-asked US system is not the one followed around the world. Australia, like other countries with significant British history, has the concept of Crown Copyrights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_copyright#Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_copyright#Australia). Whether it's the (UK) Met Office (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/services/data/met-office-data-for-reuse https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/services/data/met-office-data-f...), (Australian) BoM (https://reg.bom.gov.au/business-solutions/ https://reg.bom.gov.au/business-solutions/) or (NZ) MetService (https://metraweather.com/ https://metraweather.com/), commercial use is paid-for. Personal use is implied to be free, but usually they interpret using their API to be commercial use.
- thejosh 4y ago
  That being said, and I agree with all points you raised, the Australian Gov has been fantastic over the last few years of focusing on open data, to give credit where it's due. https://data.gov.au/search https://data.gov.au/search Their datasets are great! G-NAF for example: https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-19432f89-dc3a-4ef3-b943-5326ef1dbecc/details https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-19432f89-dc3a-4ef3-b943-5...
  - zinekeller 4y ago
    To be fair, from looking at the available datasets of different countries, it seems that weather data tends to be the one requiring business-level licensing. There are exceptions like Norway's Met (https://api.met.no/ https://api.met.no/) and US' NOAA (too many to list), but unfortunately the usual answer for "weather data?" is "pay first".
  - Humphrey 4y ago
    Totally, there are full 3d scans of Launceston available. It's amazing what data you can access!
- andylynch 4y ago
  Quite correct- though the UK Met Office has a specific non-commercial API in DataPoint which is pretty good.
  - zinekeller 4y ago
    Oh, didn't knew about that despite checking out their website, but reviewing the licence you're correct in saying that commercial use requires payment.

You'll be surprised that the free-for-all-no-questions-asked US system is not the one followed around the world. Australia, like other countries with significant British history, has the concept of Crown Copyrights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_copyright#Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_copyright#Australia). Whether it's the (UK) Met Office (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/services/data/met-office-data-for-reuse https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/services/data/met-office-data-f...), (Australian) BoM (https://reg.bom.gov.au/business-solutions/ https://reg.bom.gov.au/business-solutions/) or (NZ) MetService (https://metraweather.com/ https://metraweather.com/), commercial use is paid-for. Personal use is implied to be free, but usually they interpret using their API to be commercial use.

thejosh 4y ago
That being said, and I agree with all points you raised, the Australian Gov has been fantastic over the last few years of focusing on open data, to give credit where it's due. https://data.gov.au/search https://data.gov.au/search Their datasets are great! G-NAF for example: https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-19432f89-dc3a-4ef3-b943-5326ef1dbecc/details https://data.gov.au/dataset/ds-dga-19432f89-dc3a-4ef3-b943-5...
- zinekeller 4y ago
  To be fair, from looking at the available datasets of different countries, it seems that weather data tends to be the one requiring business-level licensing. There are exceptions like Norway's Met (https://api.met.no/ https://api.met.no/) and US' NOAA (too many to list), but unfortunately the usual answer for "weather data?" is "pay first".
- Humphrey 4y ago
  Totally, there are full 3d scans of Launceston available. It's amazing what data you can access!
andylynch 4y ago
Quite correct- though the UK Met Office has a specific non-commercial API in DataPoint which is pretty good.
- zinekeller 4y ago
  Oh, didn't knew about that despite checking out their website, but reviewing the licence you're correct in saying that commercial use requires payment.