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What would you say are ways in which an experienced engineer could tell if the PM is adding value or not?
by 8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y ago
What would you say are ways in which an experienced engineer could tell if the PM is adding value or not?
- ETHisso2017 4y agoChatGPT would like to know this answer
- barry-cotter 4y agoAre there anomalously few bullshit problems compared to other places you have worked? Is there weirdly little paperwork? Do other teams doing roughly similar work have ongoing problems that you just don’t have? Do you have weirdly few, oddly productive meetings?
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y agoGot it. If I'm understanding correctly, most of those qualities revolve around helping run a tight, low on overhead process where everybody is clear around priorities and what everybody else is working on?
- barry-cotter 4y agoYeah. You come as close as possible to the product manager being the only point of contact outside the team because they know what everyone is doing and why they’re doing it in sufficient detail that they can do the communication work so everyone else can do the production work.
- 8f2ab37a-ed6c 4y agoOk, great. The reason why I was asking is that it sounds to me that we're talking about two different roles entirely. Yours is indeed quite valuable, but would be often called "project manager", whereas the one I'm talking about is more the customer-facing stakeholder-convincing business-outcome-responsible "product manager". See the difference explained here: https://www.coursera.org/articles/product-manager-vs-project-manager https://www.coursera.org/articles/product-manager-vs-project... Is that a fair assertion?