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This has actually been my issue with Neeva since before the AI thing. I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google

This has actually been my issue with Neeva since before the AI thing. I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google can continue to make money off giving me stuff, but 95% of my Neeva searches result in going to Google anyways. For a while my muscle memory when searching was to prefix with a "g" so why pay a middle man?

jacooper 4y ago
Have you tried Brave search? I actually found it to be good and you can use it for free or subscribe for an ad free version.
- tylersmith 4y ago
  Tbh I didn't realize they had a paid option until I looked after reading this comment. I'll probably try it out, thanks.
- vrc 4y ago
  What powers Brave search?
  - codercotton 4y ago
    Brave powers Brave Search. Independent search Even supposedly “neutral” or “private” search engines rely on big tech for results. Brave is different. We deliver results based on our own built-from-scratch index. We’re beholden to no one.
nilespotter 4y ago
> I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google can continue to make money off giving me stuff I have found Kagi to be a nearly 100% replacement for Google
- tylersmith 4y ago
  I haven't seen them before but trying them now. Thanks! Maybe I should try to do a write up these different options.
- junofan 4y ago
  I signed up for Kagi. I’m disappointed in all the login stuff.
  - nullandvoid 4y ago
    What do you mean, I just login once on web/mobile, set as default search engine and forget
  - jlund-molfese 4y ago
    You use the session link too, right? That way, once you log in once, you can set your browser to use it as the default search engine and avoid the need to ever log in again.
- gsa 4y ago
  I've been using Kagi for a few months and while it is better than Google/DDG in many aspects, it still inherits the problem of ignoring words in queries. Also, the "International" region has a strong American bias. Google still handles localised search results significantly better than anything else. I'm still a paying customer of Kagi though and I hope they get a chance to work on these issues.
- dns_snek 4y ago
  Kagi still relies on Google, Bing and others to provide search results. Google and Microsoft could, in theory, end their business by refusing to provide them the search API or increasing prices by 10x. I really hope Kagi or something like it succeeds in the long term, but I don't know how viable their model is going to be without removing dependencies on megacorps.
chillfox 4y ago
I have switched over to using you.com for search. Been using it for a few months now and I almost never have to go back to Google for general search. The only kind of search that I consistently need to use google for is looking up the meaning of words, so searching "define something", for everything else it's been weeks between needing to use Google.
vinaypai 4y ago
I agree 100%. They had good ideas like being able to prioritize/blacklist sites from results. But ultimately they just seem to be chasing every gimmick instead of focusing on building a good product.

jacooper 4y ago

Have you tried Brave search? I actually found it to be good and you can use it for free or subscribe for an ad free version.

tylersmith 4y ago
Tbh I didn't realize they had a paid option until I looked after reading this comment. I'll probably try it out, thanks.
vrc 4y ago
What powers Brave search?
- codercotton 4y ago
  Brave powers Brave Search. Independent search Even supposedly “neutral” or “private” search engines rely on big tech for results. Brave is different. We deliver results based on our own built-from-scratch index. We’re beholden to no one.

nilespotter 4y ago

> I love the idea of a search engine I can fund by paying directly instead of hoping Google can continue to make money off giving me stuff I have found Kagi to be a nearly 100% replacement for Google

tylersmith 4y ago
I haven't seen them before but trying them now. Thanks! Maybe I should try to do a write up these different options.
junofan 4y ago
I signed up for Kagi. I’m disappointed in all the login stuff.
- nullandvoid 4y ago
  What do you mean, I just login once on web/mobile, set as default search engine and forget
- jlund-molfese 4y ago
  You use the session link too, right? That way, once you log in once, you can set your browser to use it as the default search engine and avoid the need to ever log in again.
gsa 4y ago
I've been using Kagi for a few months and while it is better than Google/DDG in many aspects, it still inherits the problem of ignoring words in queries. Also, the "International" region has a strong American bias. Google still handles localised search results significantly better than anything else. I'm still a paying customer of Kagi though and I hope they get a chance to work on these issues.
dns_snek 4y ago
Kagi still relies on Google, Bing and others to provide search results. Google and Microsoft could, in theory, end their business by refusing to provide them the search API or increasing prices by 10x. I really hope Kagi or something like it succeeds in the long term, but I don't know how viable their model is going to be without removing dependencies on megacorps.

chillfox 4y ago

I have switched over to using you.com for search. Been using it for a few months now and I almost never have to go back to Google for general search. The only kind of search that I consistently need to use google for is looking up the meaning of words, so searching "define something", for everything else it's been weeks between needing to use Google.

vinaypai 4y ago

I agree 100%. They had good ideas like being able to prioritize/blacklist sites from results. But ultimately they just seem to be chasing every gimmick instead of focusing on building a good product.