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Zoom app dock: Congratulations, your app has apps in it now
- mozman 4y agoAlways join zoom from browser
- btown 4y agoFYI because it's something of a hidden feature: you can close the Apps dock with the ⋮ vertical dots at the bottom right of the screen!
- hamandcheese 4y agoProbably registers as a positive usage metric for the app bar.
- wildrhythms 4y agoBingo. Engagement = Good! (even if the engagement is accidental or out of frustration) The line goes up!
- shartshooter 4y agoNot permanently. I’m finding that I have to close it on ‘every’ call.
- orisho 4y agoIt has an option to "auto open", which you can deselect.
- dudleypippin 4y agoOr you can make it go away completely with: https://zoom.us/profile/setting https://zoom.us/profile/setting and search for 'apps'. Turn off "Zoom Apps Quick Launch Button" and I believe that makes the dock go away, too.
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- saurik 4y agoThis author seems shocked by this turn of events--with websites trying to be app platforms with embedded web views of websites--as if they are a recent phenomenon... have we all forgotten the (thankfully pretty short) time 15 years ago where everything that mattered suddenly had to be a Facebook app?
- dustbitying 4y agoI remember the thankfully now extinct, era of browser toolbar add-ons... yikes
- paxys 4y agoAnd 15 years before that when most internet users would launch apps from an AOL portal.
- aliqot 4y agoWith browsers trying to obscure URLs now, we're also headed back to AOL keywords, along with the walled garden of our firewalls.
- rossjudson 4y agoCongrats Zoom! You are now a platform. Take a close look at the EU DMA legislation. :)
- scotcha1 4y agowould love to hear a bit more detail on what this comment means, how it affects Zoom, etc etc.
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- alganet 4y agoMultiple nested instances of marketplaces? We're getting close, soon the tower will fall and we'll go back to writing raw HTML in uppercase tags.
- function_seven 4y agoI’ll eat your lunch with my DHTML. Maybe a bit of Java for the trickier multimedia bits.
- mr90210 4y agoDHTML, that’s some old school lingo. Lol.
- function_seven 4y agoNo joke, this was one of the first O'Reilly books I bought: https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/javascript-dhtml/0596004672/ https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/javascript-dhtml/059600...
- pimlottc 4y agoPfft, no one uses DHTML any more, AJAX is the wave of the future!
- organsnyder 4y agoI still remember the first time I made an image change to another image using the “onmouseover” attribute. It was a magical time.
- ForHackernews 4y agohttp://lemmings.280284.com/ http://lemmings.280284.com/
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- ukoki 4y agoStep 2: Zoom detects what website/app you're screen-sharing and charges Google / Microsoft / Miro etc a fee to enable "Ultra HD" for Zoom users when that site is showing on the screen (or they can join the New Zoom App Partner Program™ and publish the site as an app -- for a small revenue share fee of course)
- trifurcate 4y agoStep 3: Tons of people stop using Zoom when the Word document they are trying to share becomes unreadable.
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- jchw 4y agoThis is quite a tangent but... > Zoom, the app for ensuring the knowledge worker parts of an economy continue to work when there’s a pandemic, How did Zoom achieve this status? I had literally never used or heard of Zoom at home or at work prior to the pandemic, and now many treat it as synonymous with video chat the way that workplaces use Slack for text chat. Was there some crazy marketing strategy?
- mc32 4y agoYes, they allowed companies and public institutions to sign up and use the product for free with quick on boarding. They basically set up a "use now pay later" approach where they allowed lots of leeway to let you figure out need and payments down the road. The competition were charging by the user (you had to commit to some user license number) and you had to go through the regular onboarding process. Zoom was like you let us know what you need later. Let’s get you up and running and we’ll work out details later.
- OJFord 4y agoAnd you could invite anyone, i.e. external 'users'/customers, whoever. Webex allowed that, but not e.g. Teams, which many would already have been paying for via Office365 (ironic name to have and lose on this one).
- organsnyder 4y agoThey were well-positioned at the beginning of the pandemic, mainly because their client applications were so easy to install (in large part because of how they circumvented OS security features). Other solutions are better now, but they were in the right place at the right time.
- colordrops 4y agoThe alternative, WebEx, was even crappier at the time.
- Ocha 4y agoWebEx. Lol
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- zanchey 4y ago"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail. Those programs which cannot so expand are replaced by ones which can."
- lapetitejort 4y agoI thought the end goal of every company is to become a bank. Valve and Starbucks managed to become banks.
- dustbitying 4y agoand the goal, the dream, of every human is to live off charging for rent
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- teewuane 4y agoI have never heard of any of the apps in the new app dock.
- sneak 4y agoReminder: the zoom desktop app has a history of terrible security practices and should not be installed on any machine with data you intend to keep private; use the (hidden with dark patterns) web version instead and never give these people access to your computer.
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- JoshTriplett 4y agoSeconded. Use the web app, and when you're the one choosing the meeting technology choose more open alternatives like Jitsi (which doesn't even require an account for everyone).
- blep_ 4y agoZoom also doesn't require an account for everyone.
- JoshTriplett 4y agoFair point, thanks for the correction.
- jpace121 4y ago“ Wow is the web a weird application delivery mechanism where people are writing applications and then essentially compiling them down to binaries using WebAssembly, but weirdly shoehorning it into a hypertext framework” I thought this was an interesting quote from the article that relates back to something I’ve been thinking about as I’ve started to look at writing apps that run any where and realized that forces you into writing a web app, but web apps kind of suck because at the end of the day you’re really writing a website not an app… I wonder if you could at this point reinvent the browser so it was specialized for web apps not sites, and what that would even look like.
- paxys 4y agoThat distinction doesn't matter all that much today. The entire "hypertext framework" part of most single page apps is a generic 10-line index.html. The app bundle can be downloaded and cached indefinitely and work perfectly even offline. This specialized browser for web apps not sites would look like – Chrome.
- tanseydavid 4y ago>> The entire "hypertext framework" part of most single page apps is a generic 10-line index.html. This statement seems rather misleading. There ultimately ends up being vastly more hypertext delivered to the browser than can be represented by a 10-line html file.
- janalsncm 4y agoI don’t know enough about non-web apps. What sucks about web apps? Speed is definitely a part of it, but I always saw that as a cost of interoperability.
- deepakinseattle 4y agoIt took me a while stumbling around their settings (maybe dark pattern alert) to figure out how to disable this for your team if you're an admin. * Navigate to https://us06web.zoom.us/profile/setting https://us06web.zoom.us/profile/setting * Click on "Zoom Apps" * Toggle the "Zoom Apps Quick Launch Button" sliders. This took me about 30 min to figure out because all the emails from Zoom about how to 'manage' this was a link to their marketplace which is an upsell to add apps, not to disable it. HTH someone else.
- j45 4y agoThere are lots of existing and aspiring superapps out there. It might be new to OP