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You haven't answered my question. What is the suicide rate from knives? You specifically brought up knives as a "problem." Your word. What is the suicide ra

You haven't answered my question. What is the suicide rate from knives? You specifically brought up knives as a "problem." Your word. What is the suicide rate from homemade explosives? Sticks? Screwdrivers? You brought those up as "problems." The evidence I have seen makes me believe that suicide in otherwise healthy individuals seems to be a fleeting goal. It's not as though someone becomes set upon their decision, and continues attempting it until they succeed, for the vast majority of people. Thus, when someone has the temporary motive of suicide, and they have a firearm available, they tend to succeed. When they have a temporary motive of suicide, but they don't have a firearm available, they succeed less often. I get that the burden would be on me to argue that perspective with evidence, and I'm not going to be able to provide it any time soon, and I apologize for that. But since you brought up the "problems" of knives, homemade explosives, sticks, and screwdrivers, again, I have to ask - do you have any evidence that those are worth being described as "problems"?

kobalsky 4y ago
I failed to mention that I was not the original commenter. > Thus, when someone has the temporary motive of suicide, and they have a firearm available, they tend to succeed. When they have a temporary motive of suicide, but they don't have a firearm available, they succeed less often. To my, I repeat, uneducated eyes, the statistics I posted seem to show that people simply hang themselves when they don't have guns, but I cannot say with any kind of guarantee that this is correct. I don't like drawing such strong conclusions because I know it's not that simple to read statistics. If you can support your claims with data I'd love to read it.
- VikingCoder 4y ago
  Came across this: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-... That to me shows that 82.5% of those who attempt suicide by firearms succeed, whereas the next causes are drowning 65%, hanging 61%, gas 41%, jumping 34%, then all the way down to drugs 1.5%, cutting 1.2%.

kobalsky 4y ago

I failed to mention that I was not the original commenter. > Thus, when someone has the temporary motive of suicide, and they have a firearm available, they tend to succeed. When they have a temporary motive of suicide, but they don't have a firearm available, they succeed less often. To my, I repeat, uneducated eyes, the statistics I posted seem to show that people simply hang themselves when they don't have guns, but I cannot say with any kind of guarantee that this is correct. I don't like drawing such strong conclusions because I know it's not that simple to read statistics. If you can support your claims with data I'd love to read it.

VikingCoder 4y ago
Came across this: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-... That to me shows that 82.5% of those who attempt suicide by firearms succeed, whereas the next causes are drowning 65%, hanging 61%, gas 41%, jumping 34%, then all the way down to drugs 1.5%, cutting 1.2%.