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My neighbor has been waiting since Dec 20th for his background check to complete, so he can get his new shotgun (not a handgun, not even a semi-automatic). Giv

My neighbor has been waiting since Dec 20th for his background check to complete, so he can get his new shotgun (not a handgun, not even a semi-automatic). Given how far back he is in line, and how much it moves in a day, he is looking at mid-february to get his shotgun. Our state is intentionally slow-walking all background checks while they try to win some court cases centered around some recent gun control ballot measures. He has a concealed carry license, which means he already completed a very detailed background check within the last 2 years in our state, and usually, approval takes something like 10 min for concealed license holders since the already have your info. Note that the federal law says if a background check takes more than 3 days, the dealer MAY give you the weapon, but most retail chains will not honor that, since they are worried about liability. That wording was put in to make sure that states and the FBI would not try to slow-walk things, under-hire, etc.

ofrzeta 4y ago
Having to wait two months doesn't seem particularly hard to me.
- notch656c 4y ago
  OP is likely from Oregon and it sounds like it could be very hard, as the delay may be imposed in association with needing further licensing after he misses the cutoff. It is my understanding there may not even be a way to get the license yet after he misses the cutoff. AFAIK the new ballot approved scheme requires this currently unobtonium new permit even for those with a CCW, and this delay may push him into unobtanium being in force.
  - mgarfias 4y ago
    My friends ex husband works at OSP’s firearms bg department. They’re being told (not in writing) to GO VERY SLOWLY. Like 1-2 per day, vs the 400 that is possible.
- Ancapistani 4y ago
  Would you feel the same way if you were a petite 20-year-old woman who was just threatened by your husband after filing for divorce and being granted a temporary restraining order against him?
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  - ofrzeta 4y ago
    I am not sure if buying a gun is the adequate answer to this threat. However I am not a US citizen and I get the point. Sometimes, I guess, it's a good thing to delay the checks to let the people chill a bit until they get their gun. Also letting the 20-year-old woman buy a gun with no proper training might likely result in two casualties.
  - acdha 4y ago
    Yes: someone in that situation is far more likely to be the victim of gun violence (the attacker can pick the time and place, everyone has to sleep, etc.). Having that violent ex unable to get a gun because the review process determined they were a high risk would save many lives in the U.S. every year.
mgarfias 4y ago
Oregon represent!
kaba0 4y ago
Why the hell would you need a shotgun? Like, I am normally very anti-gun, but I do accept the premise that the cat is out of the bag in case of the US. But why not stick to small pistols for self-defense? Ok, let’s have some shooting range that has shotguns and whatnot in an ultra-secure manner for “fun”, but otherwise why would you need anything else at home?

ofrzeta 4y ago

Having to wait two months doesn't seem particularly hard to me.

notch656c 4y ago
OP is likely from Oregon and it sounds like it could be very hard, as the delay may be imposed in association with needing further licensing after he misses the cutoff. It is my understanding there may not even be a way to get the license yet after he misses the cutoff. AFAIK the new ballot approved scheme requires this currently unobtonium new permit even for those with a CCW, and this delay may push him into unobtanium being in force.
- mgarfias 4y ago
  My friends ex husband works at OSP’s firearms bg department. They’re being told (not in writing) to GO VERY SLOWLY. Like 1-2 per day, vs the 400 that is possible.
Ancapistani 4y ago
Would you feel the same way if you were a petite 20-year-old woman who was just threatened by your husband after filing for divorce and being granted a temporary restraining order against him?
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- ofrzeta 4y ago
  I am not sure if buying a gun is the adequate answer to this threat. However I am not a US citizen and I get the point. Sometimes, I guess, it's a good thing to delay the checks to let the people chill a bit until they get their gun. Also letting the 20-year-old woman buy a gun with no proper training might likely result in two casualties.
- acdha 4y ago
  Yes: someone in that situation is far more likely to be the victim of gun violence (the attacker can pick the time and place, everyone has to sleep, etc.). Having that violent ex unable to get a gun because the review process determined they were a high risk would save many lives in the U.S. every year.

mgarfias 4y ago

Oregon represent!

kaba0 4y ago

Why the hell would you need a shotgun? Like, I am normally very anti-gun, but I do accept the premise that the cat is out of the bag in case of the US. But why not stick to small pistols for self-defense? Ok, let’s have some shooting range that has shotguns and whatnot in an ultra-secure manner for “fun”, but otherwise why would you need anything else at home?