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Is this legit in some way? I can't find no terms of service, privacy policy, even the name of the company behind it. Honestly, looks like a cool designed websi

Is this legit in some way? I can't find no terms of service, privacy policy, even the name of the company behind it. Honestly, looks like a cool designed website selling pirated content. I guess no one is going to fill DCMAs for old eastern/russian movies?

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
Feel free not to watch? Here are several hundred released for free by Poland’s culture ministry: https://35mm.online/en https://35mm.online/en Also with English subtitles. You can find some Russian ones on YouTube, like the original “Solaris” — which I highly recommend. It is from the early 70s. No George Clooney or Steven Soderbergh.
- achairapart 4y ago
  Just to be clear: I appreciate you sharing the source (and yes, I already have an account on 35mm.online, thanks to HN[0], and I already know by heart every Tarkovskij film). Also, I'm not the biggest fan of copyright either. What left me a bit sour about that website is not even that they are asking money but really just how they are pretending to be a legitimate business. Instead, I'm more inclined to donate to people who make an effort to share rare and interesting content, for its own sake, like https://rarefilmm.com https://rarefilmm.com [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166636 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166636
sofixa 4y ago
Does the DMCA even apply here? The movies in question are from counties that have local copyright laws (reminder that DMCA is an American thing with reciprocal agreements with a bunch of countries including the whole of the EU), decades old and in some cases in the public domain.
- PeterisP 4y ago
  DMCA doesn't apply outside of USA but the core copyright conditions are the same pretty much everywhere, with the only one in Europe who isn't a full member of the treaties being Kosovo due to differing opinions about recognizing it as an independent state. "Decades old" is far from being sufficient to become unburdened by copyright. Works with joint authorship (as movies almost universally are) generally become public domain upon 70 years of death of its last remaining author - e.g. for movies you have to wait until the principal director, the author of the screenplay, the author of the dialogue and the composer of music all die, and then 70 years after that, so it's wouldn't be even surprising to have even the very oldest surviving movie of some country be still under copyright if one of them survived WW2.
- ectopod 4y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Universal_Copyright_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Unive...
wmil 4y ago
Determining status of copyrights and ownership for movies produced under soviet block communist governments is going to open up thorny legal questions. Who would even own the copyright? The government? The director? Are they public domain? What's the continuity of the copyright? They probably don't have enough commercial value to fight over. Now if Ye used a sample of a soundtrack without authorization in a hit song, there's suddenly real money involved. Lawyers and artists would come out of the woodwork and start filing claims.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  I almost think parent is trolling.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago

Feel free not to watch? Here are several hundred released for free by Poland’s culture ministry: https://35mm.online/en https://35mm.online/en Also with English subtitles. You can find some Russian ones on YouTube, like the original “Solaris” — which I highly recommend. It is from the early 70s. No George Clooney or Steven Soderbergh.

achairapart 4y ago
Just to be clear: I appreciate you sharing the source (and yes, I already have an account on 35mm.online, thanks to HN[0], and I already know by heart every Tarkovskij film). Also, I'm not the biggest fan of copyright either. What left me a bit sour about that website is not even that they are asking money but really just how they are pretending to be a legitimate business. Instead, I'm more inclined to donate to people who make an effort to share rare and interesting content, for its own sake, like https://rarefilmm.com https://rarefilmm.com [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166636 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32166636

sofixa 4y ago

Does the DMCA even apply here? The movies in question are from counties that have local copyright laws (reminder that DMCA is an American thing with reciprocal agreements with a bunch of countries including the whole of the EU), decades old and in some cases in the public domain.

PeterisP 4y ago
DMCA doesn't apply outside of USA but the core copyright conditions are the same pretty much everywhere, with the only one in Europe who isn't a full member of the treaties being Kosovo due to differing opinions about recognizing it as an independent state. "Decades old" is far from being sufficient to become unburdened by copyright. Works with joint authorship (as movies almost universally are) generally become public domain upon 70 years of death of its last remaining author - e.g. for movies you have to wait until the principal director, the author of the screenplay, the author of the dialogue and the composer of music all die, and then 70 years after that, so it's wouldn't be even surprising to have even the very oldest surviving movie of some country be still under copyright if one of them survived WW2.
ectopod 4y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Universal_Copyright_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_parties_to_the_Unive...

wmil 4y ago

Determining status of copyrights and ownership for movies produced under soviet block communist governments is going to open up thorny legal questions. Who would even own the copyright? The government? The director? Are they public domain? What's the continuity of the copyright? They probably don't have enough commercial value to fight over. Now if Ye used a sample of a soundtrack without authorization in a hit song, there's suddenly real money involved. Lawyers and artists would come out of the woodwork and start filing claims.

TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
I almost think parent is trolling.