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> This is 100% the drivers fault though, it is extremely easy to override Autopilot That's speculation. Do we know if the car had suddenly lost the ability to

> This is 100% the drivers fault though, it is extremely easy to override Autopilot That's speculation. Do we know if the car had suddenly lost the ability to continue driving? Was the car pulling to the closest side of the road? If you lose power in a gas powered vehicle, have a flat, or some other failure when you're in the far left lane, what should be done? From the video, it looks like a lot of people are following way too closely. Far less than the 3-second rule would allow for. The first vehicle behind that crashed got caught by the sudden lane change. The second vehicle avoided rear ending them. You can see the weight and suspension settle just before it gets hit from behind. Three was slowing and trying to avoid the crash (it shifts lanes and makes it past), while the fourth was in a rush to get past three (you can barely see it, that's how close they were following). While the quick pull to the left side of the road probably initiated things and caused the first vehicle to rear end the Tesla, the pile up is the fault of the fourth car (which can barely be seen behind the pickup that managed to avoid it), and all the others that were clearly following way too closely.

Symbiote 4y ago
> If you lose power in a gas powered vehicle Safely merge right and stop in the shoulder if possible, but in heavy traffic like this put the hazard lights on and slowly stop without changing lanes. Call the police -- do not get out of the car while there are still lanes with moving traffic. In wealthier-Europe the police would activate electronic "60km/h", "lane closed" and similar signs. It's a long time since I drove in the USA, I can't remember if you have these. > have a flat If you must stop quicker pulse the brakes if possible (the flashing lights draw more attention), but again, don't change lanes. Changing lanes caused the problem, which was compounded by the too-close following vehicles. Some of those vehicles also changed lanes dangerously, when they should have stopped in their current lane. For what it's worth, a vehicle two ahead of me crashed into the central barrier in my final driving lesson.
darknavi 4y ago
> Do we know if the car had suddenly lost the ability to continue driving? We don't know if it is 100% the driver's fault. But we do know with reasonable certainty that AP did not "lock out" a driver or anything. Autopilot is universally override-able.

Symbiote 4y ago

> If you lose power in a gas powered vehicle Safely merge right and stop in the shoulder if possible, but in heavy traffic like this put the hazard lights on and slowly stop without changing lanes. Call the police -- do not get out of the car while there are still lanes with moving traffic. In wealthier-Europe the police would activate electronic "60km/h", "lane closed" and similar signs. It's a long time since I drove in the USA, I can't remember if you have these. > have a flat If you must stop quicker pulse the brakes if possible (the flashing lights draw more attention), but again, don't change lanes. Changing lanes caused the problem, which was compounded by the too-close following vehicles. Some of those vehicles also changed lanes dangerously, when they should have stopped in their current lane. For what it's worth, a vehicle two ahead of me crashed into the central barrier in my final driving lesson.

darknavi 4y ago

> Do we know if the car had suddenly lost the ability to continue driving? We don't know if it is 100% the driver's fault. But we do know with reasonable certainty that AP did not "lock out" a driver or anything. Autopilot is universally override-able.