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That was absolutely not the case in this accident. The Tesla swerved in front of the car in the next lane and then suddenly slammed on the breaks. The two cars

That was absolutely not the case in this accident. The Tesla swerved in front of the car in the next lane and then suddenly slammed on the breaks. The two cars behind that one were driving several car lengths back. There was no way for this accident to involve less than 4 cars.

maerF0x0 4y ago
False. There exists a following distance and amount of paying attention that would have involved 0 cars hitting the tesla. If you look really closely at it at least 3 cars (maybe 4) stopped with next to no incident (it's not discernible if they even touched). It's the 5th or 6th car that shoves everyone into everyone else (and quite dramatically gets under the car infront of them and pops them up)
- SrslyJosh 4y ago
  The Tesla changed lanes and came to a stop in the middle of a bridge for no reason. Would you make excuses for a human that did that while conscious and not in any kind of distress?
  - maerF0x0 4y ago
    > that while conscious and not in any kind of distress? I'd be less understanding, yes. But at this point it's presumable that the autopilot was in "distress" (avoiding a perceived issue). And when such a thing comes up, real or false, the drivers behind need to be ready to react. And several of the cars did so quite well actually. The only reason this is a dramatic incident is because of the like 5th or 6th car that hits everyone else hard.
- timeon 4y ago
  Not sure how it is in SF. But I have noticed too many people on highway looking at their phones (even if it is illegal). On the other side I do not understand why this 'Autopilot' is not banned from the public roads.
  - maerF0x0 4y ago
    +1 to this, I ride motorcycle and lane split (in California) and frequently see people doing 80miles an hour looking down at the phone in their lap. This means even their peripheral vision is out of play, at least if they held the phone at 12 oclock over the steering wheel there'd be some non focused vision... smh
    - dzhiurgis 4y ago
      Honestly I think Carplay would save more lives if they allowed reading messages via infotainment screen instead of me having to tap my phone (voice messaging doesn't exist in most languages and Apple wouldn't Google to step in, lol)

maerF0x0 4y ago

False. There exists a following distance and amount of paying attention that would have involved 0 cars hitting the tesla. If you look really closely at it at least 3 cars (maybe 4) stopped with next to no incident (it's not discernible if they even touched). It's the 5th or 6th car that shoves everyone into everyone else (and quite dramatically gets under the car infront of them and pops them up)

SrslyJosh 4y ago
The Tesla changed lanes and came to a stop in the middle of a bridge for no reason. Would you make excuses for a human that did that while conscious and not in any kind of distress?
- maerF0x0 4y ago
  > that while conscious and not in any kind of distress? I'd be less understanding, yes. But at this point it's presumable that the autopilot was in "distress" (avoiding a perceived issue). And when such a thing comes up, real or false, the drivers behind need to be ready to react. And several of the cars did so quite well actually. The only reason this is a dramatic incident is because of the like 5th or 6th car that hits everyone else hard.
timeon 4y ago
Not sure how it is in SF. But I have noticed too many people on highway looking at their phones (even if it is illegal). On the other side I do not understand why this 'Autopilot' is not banned from the public roads.
- maerF0x0 4y ago
  +1 to this, I ride motorcycle and lane split (in California) and frequently see people doing 80miles an hour looking down at the phone in their lap. This means even their peripheral vision is out of play, at least if they held the phone at 12 oclock over the steering wheel there'd be some non focused vision... smh
  - dzhiurgis 4y ago
    Honestly I think Carplay would save more lives if they allowed reading messages via infotainment screen instead of me having to tap my phone (voice messaging doesn't exist in most languages and Apple wouldn't Google to step in, lol)