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I don't have any answer or opinion on whether the company "is open", I'm not sure how to operationalize that. But what you can say is that some but not all of
by jrochkind1 4y ago
I don't have any answer or opinion on whether the company "is open", I'm not sure how to operationalize that.
But what you can say is that some but not all of their released products are released with code under open source licenses. Eg:
https://github.com/openai/whisper/blob/main/LICENSE https://github.com/openai/whisper/blob/main/LICENSE (an actual product, to transcribe audio, which it really does extremely well; and it's open source code; released last fall)
So that's one sense in which they produce "open" things today.
I would personally expect that all of their "openness", from the currently free trial (but not open source) cloud-hosted products, to the code released as open source licenses -- are part of a business strategy to get awareness of the technology and of them as a brand, and buy-in, and can/will be changed at any point if it makes business sense. As we increasingly see with so many companies that start out even all-in with open source. (Say, elasticsearch). I think we should assume almost any for-profit company producing open source is in this category.
I think their name is a marketting gimmick to make people assume they are some kind of academic non-profit.
I don't know if it's obvious what a Microsoft purchase might do to those plans/timelines. In some ways MS's deep pockets might mean that free and/or open source offerings can persist longer, extend the metaphorical runway. MS will definitely want to be known as the authority on AI, and making sure people keep seeing your stuff to be impressed by it, and making sure it gets used by enough people to stay "the standard" is how you do that.
- londons_explore 4y ago> some kind of academic non-profit. I think this image was also important for hiring their researchers. You'll successfully pull people from academia with the lure of lots of money and resources and the openness that they're used to from the academic world.
- 93po 4y agoThese code bases are effectively worthless without the training, which is definitely not open.
- jrochkind1 4y agoYeah, that's a good point. Whisper is useful as a tool to transcribe audio though. Like you can just use it to do that, without having any idea how it works, and it does that well, and it's free. But yeah, it's not exactly "open source"... I mean technically the code and models in the repo is, but I get that's not enough if you actually wanted to develop/improve/fork the actual workings. But it is a working transcriber, that can be used for free, with a license such that it will remain so!
- littlestymaar 4y ago> So that's one sense in which they produce "open" things today. But so does Microsoft, Google, or even Apple. But I don't think anyone would claim these companies are “Open” in any meaningful way.
- jrochkind1 4y agoWhat does it even mean for a company to "be open"?