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-> How do those people live, then? Subsidies from elsewhere. As noted elsewhere, this can be in the form of living with family, cash payments from family, trans

-> How do those people live, then? Subsidies from elsewhere. As noted elsewhere, this can be in the form of living with family, cash payments from family, transfer payments from government, illegal side hustles, etc. Defer payments/maintenance to other areas of life. If they own a home maybe they decide to defer maintenance. If they can save a few bucks, maybe they avoid the Dr even though they're sick. They drive a less reliable car. Their food is lowest tier. Clothes are from thrift. Repairs are DIY, or help from a friend/family member.

runako 4y ago
This also evidences a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be a full-time low-wage employee. > If they own a home What home? We're talking about a cohort of people who work full-time jobs and still qualify for food stamps. Unless they inherited, they do not as a rule own homes. > They drive a less reliable car. Or cars. But yes, they skimp on everything, and then the taxpayer kicks in for their food, (frequently) shelter, healthcare, etc. I highly recommend Hand to Mouth by Linda Tirado for a first-hand look into being working poor in America.
- engineer_22 4y ago
  > What home? We're talking about a cohort of people who work full-time jobs and still qualify for food stamps. Unless they inherited, they do not as a rule own homes. From the Article living wage in Onondaga County is $70,200. The Fed has MHI in that county at $65,000, which I know is enough to afford a home in Onondaga County. As a rule, the median owns a home. > But yes, they skimp on everything, and then the taxpayer kicks in for their food, (frequently) shelter, healthcare, etc. Social spending isn't going to the median family. > I highly recommend Hand to Mouth by Linda Tirado for a first-hand look into being working poor in America. I don't need to read a book about it. I lived it. My friends and family still live it. Your comment is very condescending, typical of the coastal liberal.
  - runako 4y ago
    > the median owns a home The median isn't the working poor. We're talking about two different groups of people. > Your comment is very condescending, typical of the coastal liberal. I offered a book I found informative to a stranger as something positive. I'm not a coastal liberal, but I do find your response unwarranted. I do genuinely hope the rest of your day goes better.
    - engineer_22 4y ago
      I got rate-limited for calling you coastal. Have a nice day.

runako 4y ago

This also evidences a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to be a full-time low-wage employee. > If they own a home What home? We're talking about a cohort of people who work full-time jobs and still qualify for food stamps. Unless they inherited, they do not as a rule own homes. > They drive a less reliable car. Or cars. But yes, they skimp on everything, and then the taxpayer kicks in for their food, (frequently) shelter, healthcare, etc. I highly recommend Hand to Mouth by Linda Tirado for a first-hand look into being working poor in America.

engineer_22 4y ago
> What home? We're talking about a cohort of people who work full-time jobs and still qualify for food stamps. Unless they inherited, they do not as a rule own homes. From the Article living wage in Onondaga County is $70,200. The Fed has MHI in that county at $65,000, which I know is enough to afford a home in Onondaga County. As a rule, the median owns a home. > But yes, they skimp on everything, and then the taxpayer kicks in for their food, (frequently) shelter, healthcare, etc. Social spending isn't going to the median family. > I highly recommend Hand to Mouth by Linda Tirado for a first-hand look into being working poor in America. I don't need to read a book about it. I lived it. My friends and family still live it. Your comment is very condescending, typical of the coastal liberal.
- runako 4y ago
  > the median owns a home The median isn't the working poor. We're talking about two different groups of people. > Your comment is very condescending, typical of the coastal liberal. I offered a book I found informative to a stranger as something positive. I'm not a coastal liberal, but I do find your response unwarranted. I do genuinely hope the rest of your day goes better.
  - engineer_22 4y ago
    I got rate-limited for calling you coastal. Have a nice day.