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It's a perpetual frustration to me thay electricity is so much more expensive than gas. It feels like we have to be doing something wrong that processing & truc

It's a perpetual frustration to me thay electricity is so much more expensive than gas. It feels like we have to be doing something wrong that processing & trucking fuel out to people os so much cheaper a form of energy than what we get from the electrical grid. If we take the EPAs 33.4 kWh to a gallon equivalency, and say gas costs $5/gallon, that'd be $0.15/kWh. A good portion of America doesnt even have power to the home at that rate.

starkd 4y ago
Does this factor in the energy loss in transmission?
prottog 4y ago
> that'd be $0.15/kWh. A good portion of America doesnt even have power to the home at that rate. The majority of Americans pay less than that for retail electricity to the home: https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/ https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/
- mikeyouse 4y ago
  Right... basically Hawaii, California, and New England pay more than that - most of the rest of the country is at or under $0.10/kwh. I worked for a small business in Texas that used a fair amount of electricity and we were paying $0.04/kwh peak and $0.035/kwh overnight..
  - hcurtiss 4y ago
    News to me. My PGE bill in Oregon totals out to 14.3 cents per kwh.
- lathiat 4y ago
  $0.21 USD/kWh here in Australia.
Symbiote 4y ago
That converts to 8.82 kWh per litre, since this is about the UK. Average petrol price is currently £1.50/L, so the figure is £0.17/kWh. £0.17/kWh was a typical price a few years ago, but nowadays you'll only get that at night (with a suitable meter to measure time-of-day usage). Another comment claims 10p/kWh at night on a special tariff for EV owners.
- SimonPStevens 4y ago
  Can you share what provider you are getting £0.17 at night from? I can't get better than £0.27 currently.
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    British Gas are offering 12p/kWh on the Electric Vehicle tariff. Octopus go as low as 10p/kWh, although with "please call" maybe it isn't available.

starkd 4y ago

Does this factor in the energy loss in transmission?

prottog 4y ago

> that'd be $0.15/kWh. A good portion of America doesnt even have power to the home at that rate. The majority of Americans pay less than that for retail electricity to the home: https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/ https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/

mikeyouse 4y ago
Right... basically Hawaii, California, and New England pay more than that - most of the rest of the country is at or under $0.10/kwh. I worked for a small business in Texas that used a fair amount of electricity and we were paying $0.04/kwh peak and $0.035/kwh overnight..
- hcurtiss 4y ago
  News to me. My PGE bill in Oregon totals out to 14.3 cents per kwh.
lathiat 4y ago
$0.21 USD/kWh here in Australia.

Symbiote 4y ago

That converts to 8.82 kWh per litre, since this is about the UK. Average petrol price is currently £1.50/L, so the figure is £0.17/kWh. £0.17/kWh was a typical price a few years ago, but nowadays you'll only get that at night (with a suitable meter to measure time-of-day usage). Another comment claims 10p/kWh at night on a special tariff for EV owners.

SimonPStevens 4y ago
Can you share what provider you are getting £0.17 at night from? I can't get better than £0.27 currently.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  British Gas are offering 12p/kWh on the Electric Vehicle tariff. Octopus go as low as 10p/kWh, although with "please call" maybe it isn't available.