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I have not used any of those. Waymo, ok, I don't live in that area. How can I try any of the other projects you listed?

by TekMol 4y ago

jacooper 4y ago
That's the difference, google is shy to open any of their AI projects.
- pxue 4y ago
  Probably for a good reason? I was browsing thru their AI responsibilities page and was pleasantly surprised how comprehensive and well thought out it is. Not sure if OpenAI and with the release of chatgpt has fully implemented their own call for responsible ai
  - thatguy0900 4y ago
    ChatGPT seems to just take the approach of manually selecting topics that the bot doesn't like to talk about. I doubt that approach will be a good one long term, especially when you can just find creative ways to ask the bot to pretend there isn't any rules and it will ignore the bans anyway
ben_w 4y ago
For example, pip install tensorflow and https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/tpus https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/tpus Most of what I listed is groundbreaking research, not consumer stuff. For the consumer stuff, try e.g. searching images by description in the default Android app, or Google Translate, or the automated transcriptions on YouTube. Apple also does similar things, as stuff like that is what consumer AI looks like these days.
- TekMol 4y ago
  I'm not an AI researcher, so Tensorflow and TPUs are not my area of expertise. But I have an opinion on Google translate. From my experience, it is not clearly leading in comparison to other tools by smaller companies. If Google is leading in AI, why don't they have any clearly leading consumer products in this area?
  - spi 4y ago
    As far as I could tell, their OCR capabilities are pretty much the best you can get easily: https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/ocr?hl=en https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/ocr?hl=en. If you want free, Google Lens is a pretty neat piece of software you can get on your phone (not sure if Android only or also iPhone). They all use AI, although it's a different kind of AI. For machine translation, they used to be clearly leading, then deepl arrived and I think they are roughly on par (or maybe deepl is better, but also has fewer languages). Do you have other companies in mind? As mentioned above, in research they have some great results, translating those to products is not always straightforward of course - or even possible. It is true, however, that TensorFlow is now considered outdated, with pretty much all the community switching to PyTorch (originally developed by Facebook, now handed over to the Linux foundation). But indeed these are not really products (i.e. they don't bring in the money they cost, by far), more like open source projects.

I have not used any of those. Waymo, ok, I don't live in that area. How can I try any of the other projects you listed?

by TekMol 4y ago

I have not used any of those. Waymo, ok, I don't live in that area. How can I try any of the other projects you listed?

jacooper 4y ago

That's the difference, google is shy to open any of their AI projects.

pxue 4y ago
Probably for a good reason? I was browsing thru their AI responsibilities page and was pleasantly surprised how comprehensive and well thought out it is. Not sure if OpenAI and with the release of chatgpt has fully implemented their own call for responsible ai
- thatguy0900 4y ago
  ChatGPT seems to just take the approach of manually selecting topics that the bot doesn't like to talk about. I doubt that approach will be a good one long term, especially when you can just find creative ways to ask the bot to pretend there isn't any rules and it will ignore the bans anyway

ben_w 4y ago

For example, pip install tensorflow and https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/tpus https://cloud.google.com/tpu/docs/tpus Most of what I listed is groundbreaking research, not consumer stuff. For the consumer stuff, try e.g. searching images by description in the default Android app, or Google Translate, or the automated transcriptions on YouTube. Apple also does similar things, as stuff like that is what consumer AI looks like these days.

TekMol 4y ago
I'm not an AI researcher, so Tensorflow and TPUs are not my area of expertise. But I have an opinion on Google translate. From my experience, it is not clearly leading in comparison to other tools by smaller companies. If Google is leading in AI, why don't they have any clearly leading consumer products in this area?
- spi 4y ago
  As far as I could tell, their OCR capabilities are pretty much the best you can get easily: https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/ocr?hl=en https://cloud.google.com/vision/docs/ocr?hl=en. If you want free, Google Lens is a pretty neat piece of software you can get on your phone (not sure if Android only or also iPhone). They all use AI, although it's a different kind of AI. For machine translation, they used to be clearly leading, then deepl arrived and I think they are roughly on par (or maybe deepl is better, but also has fewer languages). Do you have other companies in mind? As mentioned above, in research they have some great results, translating those to products is not always straightforward of course - or even possible. It is true, however, that TensorFlow is now considered outdated, with pretty much all the community switching to PyTorch (originally developed by Facebook, now handed over to the Linux foundation). But indeed these are not really products (i.e. they don't bring in the money they cost, by far), more like open source projects.