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Oh my god. That's straight out of Stalin's playbook. Erasing Boris Johnson the way Stalin did to Trotsky.
by mcv 4y ago
Oh my god. That's straight out of Stalin's playbook. Erasing Boris Johnson the way Stalin did to Trotsky.
- cm2187 4y agoStalin erased Trotsky a bit more violently than we are contemplating here.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 4y agoThere are some who would like that but I don't think many in government. Although if you include the civil service...
- jojobas 4y agoIt wasn't Trotsky, it was Yezhov, the man in charge of NKVD during the worst of the purge. Fun fact: of all occupations/organizations NKVD officers were at the highest risk of a speedy trial and execution.
- mcv 4y agoI think there have been several people who have been erased from photos. I recall one photo that had been updated several times to remove more and more people until only 2 were left.
- jojobas 4y agoYou must be thinking about this one. https://izbrannoe.com/upload/sotbit.htmleditoraddition/bed/bed7f3f44471adf1259d32832a7560e2.jpg https://izbrannoe.com/upload/sotbit.htmleditoraddition/bed/b... Trotsky was indeed deleted from a couple of pics, but they are much more obscure.
- mcv 4y agoThat's another example, but not the one I was thinking of. I clearly remember the photo, and yet it seems impossible to find on the internet. Closest thing I could find is this one, but it's Mao instead of Stalin: https://11points.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/maofuneral.jpg https://11points.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/maofuneral.j... (From https://11points.com/11-famous-doctored-photos-dictators/ https://11points.com/11-famous-doctored-photos-dictators/) Perhaps I'm misremembering after all and it was always Mao instead of Stalin.
- AstixAndBelix 4y agoComparing every single thing to the evils of nazism and communism is a bit too trite. I know that most people default to last century's events because they are the only ones fresh enough to have a grasp on, but deleting people from inscriptions, annals, murals, paintings, coins, etc. has been a common practice throughout history. Saying "this is just like what emperor Flavius did!" causes a lot less outrage than saying "this is just like what Stalin did!", even though they are both true. This is why, unless a phenomenon was exclusive to a certain ideology, I feel like constantly mentioning nazis and commies is just a rethorical tool
- Wildgoose 4y agoAnd has recently taken off in a big way - removing statues, replacing names and generally purging history.
- AstixAndBelix 4y agoHow do you know it has taken off? When a new roman emperor took place he mobilized an incredible amount of people to replace as much stuff as possible from the previous ruler at a scale hardly comparable to what's happening today
- consumer451 4y agoStatues and names of military bases for example, celebrate people. As far as I am aware history is mostly doing just fine in history books and places like Wikipedia. No need to conflate these things, is there?
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoDo you have specific examples you're thinking of, specifically regarding "purging history"? My university degree is in history and I have never used statutes or building names to study, but it's hard to have a discussion when the meat of the argument is only obliquely hinted at.
- pjc50 4y agoShould never have pulled down that big statue of Saddam Hussein.
- antihero 4y agoI mean the tories are bastards but I don’t think Sunak is going hard with an ice pick any time soon.
- drcongo 4y agoDespite my 24/7 prayers.