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I do remember the past and dealing with driver issues, irq conflicts and broken implementations of opengl or directx that crashed my games all the time. The co

by adrr 4y ago

I do remember the past and dealing with driver issues, irq conflicts and broken implementations of opengl or directx that crashed my games all the time. The countless hours trying to get unreal to run in hardware mode without crashing. Hours trying to find the right combo of drivers and IRQs and even moving slots. That's just games. I don't know how many papers I lost due crashes due to macs not having protected memory so one app could take out the whole system.

greedo 4y ago
I remember playing WoW on my brand new Mac Pro (circa 2005) and a month later the GPU was burned out. Replaced the GPU under warranty, a month later it burned out again. Replaced it a third time (with a lot of side eye from the Genius Bar), and decided to stop playing WoW. Never had any more issues with the GPU. Was it WoW's fault? I would think that a GPU would prevent any application from damaging it, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
- bb88 4y ago
  /s The universe is telling you to stop playing video games while living in your parent's basement. Seriously though thermal expansion can break copper traces and solder joints. There was a waft of people literally baking their gpu's in the oven to remelt the solder joints during that same decade.
  - AJRF 4y ago
    I recall wrapping my red-ringed Xbox 360 in a towel to "solve" this exact issue!
- thomastjeffery 4y ago
  Macs in that era were notorious for overheating under any real load. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro for a while that I later found was keeping a constant 100c without even spinning the fan at 100%! After a while, its cd drive failed, and I learned how to install Linux from a partition made in OSX... Eventually the whole thing became a brick. I also worked with an iMac that would get strange video errors and freeze until I found an app to turn up the fan. With a little bit of air flow, it would run just fine. I guess Apple proved one thing: hopes and dreams are not enough to cool a Core 2 Duo.
  - greedo 4y ago
    Yeah, but the Mac Pro was designed around huge fans. I think there were two huge 120mm fans in the front blowing through it.
    - thomastjeffery 4y ago
      I still suspect that the fan curve written into OSX still prioritized silence/efficiency over cooling performance. No amount of fans can overcome a setting that refuses to spin them up.
      - greedo 4y ago
        My guess is that the fan spin-up/speed was based on the CPU temperature or the case temp, not necessarily the GPU temp. The GPU had its own puny fan, but I don't know if GPU temp was even the core issue, though likely.

by adrr 4y ago

greedo 4y ago

I remember playing WoW on my brand new Mac Pro (circa 2005) and a month later the GPU was burned out. Replaced the GPU under warranty, a month later it burned out again. Replaced it a third time (with a lot of side eye from the Genius Bar), and decided to stop playing WoW. Never had any more issues with the GPU. Was it WoW's fault? I would think that a GPU would prevent any application from damaging it, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

bb88 4y ago
/s The universe is telling you to stop playing video games while living in your parent's basement. Seriously though thermal expansion can break copper traces and solder joints. There was a waft of people literally baking their gpu's in the oven to remelt the solder joints during that same decade.
- AJRF 4y ago
  I recall wrapping my red-ringed Xbox 360 in a towel to "solve" this exact issue!
thomastjeffery 4y ago
Macs in that era were notorious for overheating under any real load. I had a 2011 MacBook Pro for a while that I later found was keeping a constant 100c without even spinning the fan at 100%! After a while, its cd drive failed, and I learned how to install Linux from a partition made in OSX... Eventually the whole thing became a brick. I also worked with an iMac that would get strange video errors and freeze until I found an app to turn up the fan. With a little bit of air flow, it would run just fine. I guess Apple proved one thing: hopes and dreams are not enough to cool a Core 2 Duo.
- greedo 4y ago
  Yeah, but the Mac Pro was designed around huge fans. I think there were two huge 120mm fans in the front blowing through it.
  - thomastjeffery 4y ago
    I still suspect that the fan curve written into OSX still prioritized silence/efficiency over cooling performance. No amount of fans can overcome a setting that refuses to spin them up.
    - greedo 4y ago
      My guess is that the fan spin-up/speed was based on the CPU temperature or the case temp, not necessarily the GPU temp. The GPU had its own puny fan, but I don't know if GPU temp was even the core issue, though likely.